Are people who bought Teslas, some probably for laudable climate ends, now disgusted to drive their car every day? Or are people still buying them and it’s not yet hit home where their dollars are going…or other? Are people selling them due to political reasons now?
I see Teslas in the bay area with bumper stickers that say things like “I didn’t know he was nuts when I bought this”
My friend has one that says “SHUT UP ELON” and I want one.
My girlfriend got that exact one.
I had a down payment for a Cybertruck and I passed on it when my number was called even tho my son is in love with it and I need a new vehicle.
I put money where my mouth is. Fuck that guy
If you need an electric pickup at least you have options. I’ve driven the F-150 Lightning a small bit and really liked it, and Ford is now including free installation of their bidirectional charger that allows the truck to serve as an emergency power source for your home.
I didn’t know about that charger thing that’s pretty cool.
It’s around a $2,000 benefit, and the battery in the truck has enough capacity to power the average U.S. home for 3 days. It’s a fairly compelling vehicle, but too long to fit in my garage.
I strongly doubt that you NEED a cybertruck.
Go with the smallest vehicle you can get away with. For moving house or buying a big couch or sth you can rent a bigger vehicle (a van is probbaly more practical in these situations anyway).
Smaller vehicles are just so much cheaper in maintenance, EVs even more
I don’t need anything. Nobody needs anything except for water, food and shelter. But hear me out.
My last vehicle was purchased in 1999. It is a small 2 seater coupe with 2 tiny tiny seats in the back. I have replaced the engine 2 times and transmission once. Parts are now getting hard to come by and my family needs are growing. We like camping and each time we rent a vehicle. We are constantly trying to figure out how to move our things in my tiny car. It’s a chore to drive a small car with a family.
It’s 24 years and I feel like I have already done my part in reducing my carbon footprint.
So when looking for my next vehicle, I wanted a bigger vehicle to go camping and carry equipment to my kids practice.
I want reverse charging for my home, so my options are limited. Ford F150 and Cybertruck. Another selling point for the Cybertruck is that it’s bulletproof against handguns. That’s kinda nice knowing that if someone started shooting into my vehicle, we might survive.
Completely off topic but as a European it blows my mind that gunfire resistance is a factor to consider when purchasing cars in America.
No, its weird to me as an American too. Its not the fucking wild west here, very few people are catchin stray bullets in family cars lol thats not a real world concern, its security theatrics
I know this couple. They had a restaurant together. They employed people. They contributed to the community.
The pregnant mom was shot 4 times in their car by a random guy who just wanted to go to jail forever.
So yes, you’re right. We are not always catching stray shots. Sometimes it’s random murders in broad daylight.
Sounds like you’d get more mileage by donating the money to a mental health related charity, or a lobby group that advocates for mental crisis coverage under universal insurance, than buying a bullet resistant car.
I like to make this equation with Hungarian “ingenuity” under communism: We were producing canned goods for the population, but the design of it was so bad, regular Russian can openers couldn’t handle it. With lack of P-38/P-51 in the eastern block, we had to come up with our own specialized can openers specifically targeted at these poorly designed cans, and also distribute them to the population. But really, all that would have been necessary is to just simply redesign the can again so that it’s compatible with standard can openers again.
Bullet resistant cars and gun violence are an effect of bad design. The bad design is lack of social services.
Don’t blame our gun problems on mental health. It’s much less complex than that. It’s just too easy to get a gun in America.
I’m just a product of a bad government.
Nobody needs anything except for water, food and shelter.
Wrong. Drag needs to be dominated by a big strong dragon.
There’s a bunch of trucks that do reverse charging now. The Rivian R2 supports it, the R1 was supposed to as well but I’m not sure if that OTA update went out yet. So does the new Silverado EV (which is soooo much cooler than the Cybertruck IMO). There’s probably more, but those are the two off the top of my head.
It was something I was also interested in until I realized I really don’t want a truck.
What do you think of the Rivian trucks?
I like the Rivan. The major gripe I have with it is the price. I can’t justify it over the Ford F150 lightning.
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FYI that was debunked.
If I had a Tesla, I would look into selling it, but I wouldn’t be in a hurry if it’s still in working order. Replacing a working car is neither environmentally nor economically sustainable.
Yeah. Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV
For some reason all these people that super care about the environment aren’t doing that tho…
Although by now I guess that’s really “10 year old Prius”
Yeah. Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV. For some reason all these people that super care about the environment aren’t doing that tho…
I can’t fuel the 10 year old civic from the solar panels on my roof.
Although by now I guess that’s really “10 year old Prius”
I sold my 13 year old Prius to get the EV. If I hadn’t sold the Prius then that would be one less person would could follow your advice to buy an old Prius.
People are going to buy new cars regardless. A used car market doesn’t make sense without someone buying new cars because eventually you run out of used cars. People are voting with their dollar for something more economical and efficient. Sure, you can call them out for still buying new, but buying used is further incentivizes people to buy new cars knowing the resale value will offset the expense. We’re all stuck paying into new car production.
We might be getting out of the civic slump. Late 00s civics were not the cars to get. Maybe 2014 is out of the bad gneeration. If you picture a 1994 civic when I say “10 year old civic” I have some bad, bad news. A 2nd gen prius is a good buy. The EV market has cut into the prius used market and gas prices are low again so prices are down. Battery replacement isn’t atrocious.
Not really though…
Even in places where electricity is made with coal it doesn’t take that much mileage before your environmental impact becomes less than a gas car traveling the same distance and as time goes the gap in emissions just becomes wider and wider and wider. By buying the used Civic you’re taking the emissions from the car being produced out of the equation, but you’re still burning gas.
Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV
I hear so few people talking about this fact. The middle and upper class don’t want to hear about any solution unless it involves buying status symbols.
Proving you’re morally superior to the poors is definitely the most important part of combating climate change.
People don’t talk about it because it’s not true.
EV cars emit more to produce but they catch up the difference very quickly even if the electricity they use comes from coal generators. Gas cars total emissions keep increasing over time.
I got a used Nissan Leaf (that was one year old, so people didn’t realize it was used). Everyone was constantly telling me that I should have bought used because the lithium for a new battery is worse than anything else in the world. When I told them it was used, they either said I should have gotten an older one, or they just stopped talking about it.
Wait till their hear how bad gasoline is.
We bought Teslas six years ago. (Why we had to replace two cars in short order is a story for another day.) We did it at least in part because we were “voting with our wallets,” meaning we were trying to signal in our small way to the automotive industry that we wanted EVs.
what’s the correct number of years between buying new cars
what’s the correct number of years between buying new cars
Whatever number you give, there will be someone on the internet to tell you you’re wrong. Its almost like there isn’t a simple boiled-down answer to this and the each of us has different situations, circumstances, and resources so that there isn’t a single “one size fits all” answer, and even if there was, when a large enough population starts following that one answer, resources dry up and the “right” answer is now wrong.
Hey! My Prius is 14 years old and running! :-)
You would consider selling an object because you don’t share the vendor’s politics?
Do people here apply this reasoning in a consistent manner to all of their daily financial transactions? If so, you’re soon gonna be living in an empty home.
Applying this consistently to all daily transactions is not feasible, of course. But if it were, the world would be a much better place. I definitely try to do it where possible, and by focusing on bigger purchasing decisions you can make a bigger difference so the work isn’t as much overall as analyzing every tiny transaction.
In an ideal world, I agree that would be best. But what about when the vendor is a bad person doing a good thing? That’s what’s happening here.
Yeah then it’s more complicated. I’d say as long as you’re buying another electric vehicle, it’s probably good not to give Musk any more money. But deciding between a gas vehicle or a Tesla, I’d still lean towards Tesla.
Yeah Elon is frankly not rich because your neighbor bought a Tesla. Their actual financials and fundamentals have never been the main driver of their stock price. It’s wild speculation about their future and (mostly false) perceptions about their head start over the whole industry which have driven the stock. And it’s the stock that has driven Elon’s wealth. TBH I think it’s kind of silly to even worry about buying a Tesla, even if you do hate Elon.
Roughly the situation I’m in. I inherited an older model S when my dad passed away last year, and it’s old enough that it has free charging for life. So free car plus free charging (and less than 30k miles on it) equals “hard to pass up.” That said, their customer service has been consistently very terrible (have had it in twice plus a home visit to fix the charge port door not opening - ridiculous especially for such an essential piece of the vehicle), lots of very annoying little issues due to bad software and hardware engineering, and other expensive issues that cropped up due to poor product design and engineering (touchscreen got bubbles in it and had to be replaced - apparently they selected some laptop-type screen to use which can’t tolerate the heat that’s typically reached in a car sitting outside). Would never buy one and have even with the free charging, am still considering selling it to get away from the brand (let alone all of the whacko issues with the CEO).
Got a ride in one coming back from a school event. The Mom driving it was so apologetic about having one. Musk is burning down a lot of goodwill with his customers.
Set aside the politics. The cars are trash. Horribly made. People are idiots for buying them.
I mean, I disagree with the centre console choice, but the mainstream models are fine (factory dependent?)
I don’t think I’ve seen any Tesla release coverage that doesn’t talk about panel gaps, fit & finish, and at least 1 leaky car. And let’s not start with the Cybertruck…
People are idiots for buying them.
Americans have set the bar for vehicle quality so low for so long that they likely don’t realize they’re driving a lemon.
Every Uber around me is a Tesla. I feel fucking unsafe in those things. It also seems like every Tesla driver is an asshole who doesn’t understand the meaning of “safe dropoff locations”. I always deduct a star from Teslas, and it’s almost always deserved.
I’ve been pretty happy with my Model 3 until he went full fash. Now all the joy has been sucked out of it. Right now, I can’t really afford to get a new car but I definitely won’t be buying another Tesla.
They make stickers for your situation: https://i.etsystatic.com/40011018/r/il/1b4b8c/5018794935/il_794xN.5018794935_ihbt.jpg
Yup, I have one on my car.
Don’t look into the politics of the person who probably made those stickers!
There were reddit subs for this sort of behavior…
Exploiting your enemies consumerism is a valid business strategy
It’s probably the same guy who made the “I did that” Biden stickers.
The aura is gone but you can still appreciate your car for its fundamentals. If you like your car, keep on liking it. If it was always the aura, and the car kinda sucks, then you’re screwed. But I think most Tesla drivers actually like their cars.
And don’t worry. Whatever money you sent his way is not what made him rich, but rather the wild stock market speculation that fell under the influence of the aura.
Same. I’m one and done with my Model Y.
I’ve seen bumper stickers reading “I BOUGHT THIS BEFORE WE KNEW ELON WAS CRAZY” so
Driving less.
Eyeing other brands, but financially it just doesn’t make sense right now because it’s paid off and has required zero maintenance.
But, mentally, I hate being seen in public and fuck Elon Musk and I’ll move on as soon as it makes sense financially…or honestly, maybe even if it doesn’t.
I own two Teslas and am no fan of Musk. They are simply the best EV option (especially a few years ago when we got them) but that will shift significantly as brands onboard to NACS.
Next car we get will be in many years but if I had to pick now I’d look at a Rivian.
Same all counts. Waiting to see if someone offers an electric van, but can’t beat the supercharger network ATM (will see what NACS brings).
Elon is a dirt hat, but Tesla was the only reasonable choice for EV before 2020 and arguably still is. Literally nothing in my garage uses gas anymore.
Saaaame. We have an X and a 3, with like two months of payments left on the X and then we’re payment free until they die or are totaled. If something happened to the big one, I’d totally look at the Rivian. But I have no idea what I’d replace the 3 with. Maybe one of the Hyundais but I think they’re super ugly, especially the new one. So instead I’m hoping that they last long enough for there to be way more small model options out there.
Kia EV6s have intrigued me as an eventual Model 3 replacement.
I really hope good (FSD quality) lane keeping catches up on other brands.
Kia EV6s have intrigued me as an eventual Model 3 replacement.
I like the tech for the EV6, I’m a bit concerned with Hyundai/Kia paint, and the company’s response in washing their hands of it for people that have bought their cars in the past and its is coming off in sheets.
The Mach E is at the top of my list currently. It would be a great replacement for the Model 3. The only thing the Model 3 really has over the Mach E is the range, but since Ford can charge at Tesla chargers, it’s not really an issue.
I just got my NACS adapter for my lyriq and I’m super excited. Except I went to test it at a Tesla charger near my house before a trip I’m taking next week and the Tesla charger cord was only like 3 ft long and would not reach my charging port unless I parked perpendicular to the charger. I hope that other ones have longer cords.
My main goal is to be able to charge at buckees lol also on one trip we ran out of power because we couldn’t find a charger.
Supercharger V4 have much longer cables, but it will be a while before they release widely.
My partner and I wanted one. We test-drove a Model Y and Model 3. We were fully ready to buy one for our next vehicle. That’s changed. We are looking at other EVs now. I won’t give him my money.
2 years ago if you had asked me, I would have said probably 75% my next car would be a Tesla. Now it’s near 0%. I don’t say zero only because I could easily see myself buying a used one if I got it super cheap. Basically Im more cheap than I hate Elon.
I feel sorry for those who can separate the producer from the product
Did you mean to say can’t?
Both statements make sense
Policing the grammar police eh
I don’t recognize your authority
What if their authority recognizes you?
Death of the Author is tricky…
But Musk was Tesla’s main selling point…
Really? I thought the main selling point was that it was an electric self-driving car
I mean I wanted one and had a preorder for a Cyber Truck but passed and wont ever buy a tesla because hes a turd sandwhich.
Hey! Whoa! That’s a bit misleading, don’t you think?
He’s more of a shit buffet. A never ending supply of shit!
Let’s at least be accurate!
I just don’t really give a shit. I like the car and it works well for me and provides a lot of comfort. I’m sure the ceos of all the other car companies are equally as shitty as Elon but quiet so does it really even matter? Don’t kid yourself that you’re saving the world for buying a Volvo or Toyota instead of a Tesla.
It’s a car, not a political statement. I’m driving it. It’s still a great vehicle.
Would I buy one now? Probably not. But a lot of that is due to them making so many things extra cost.
How many people know the politics of the CEOs of the other car companies before or after they purchase? Not many I suspect.
how many other car company CEOs buy social media sites to troll and shitpost? not many I suspect
It’s the ones that are silently manipulating things that worry me more.
That is just it, i shouldn’t know the political stance of a CEO\business owner, media personality or celebrity. As soon as they put their politics out they stand a good chance of losing ½ of their followers. Just my thoughts though.
That’s because most CEO’s aren’t outright buying media companies to push their political agenda. Musk is drawing a line in the sand and more or less asking everyone to take a side.
Sadly you’re in the minority in America, where people imagine they can be literally polluted by somebody’s else ideas.
Apparently it’s something to do with the heritage of radical protestantism.
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I didn’t report this post, but it’s obviously not a shower thought.
Yeah, this is an asklemmy post. Doubt I’d put it in a Tesla sub, if one exists (don’t care to look).
The concept of a shower thought is annoyingly abstract, so I error on the side of leaving posts up, but maybe this is a good chance to get the perspectives of others:
- Is the problem, or part of the problem, that the post is a question?
- Or maybe the post is not whimsical enough?
- Do people think a shower thought can ever be a question?
- Is it something else that makes this not a shower thought?
