Are people who bought Teslas, some probably for laudable climate ends, now disgusted to drive their car every day? Or are people still buying them and it’s not yet hit home where their dollars are going…or other? Are people selling them due to political reasons now?
If I had a Tesla, I would look into selling it, but I wouldn’t be in a hurry if it’s still in working order. Replacing a working car is neither environmentally nor economically sustainable.
Yeah. Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV
For some reason all these people that super care about the environment aren’t doing that tho…
Although by now I guess that’s really “10 year old Prius”
I can’t fuel the 10 year old civic from the solar panels on my roof.
I sold my 13 year old Prius to get the EV. If I hadn’t sold the Prius then that would be one less person would could follow your advice to buy an old Prius.
People are going to buy new cars regardless. A used car market doesn’t make sense without someone buying new cars because eventually you run out of used cars. People are voting with their dollar for something more economical and efficient. Sure, you can call them out for still buying new, but buying used is further incentivizes people to buy new cars knowing the resale value will offset the expense. We’re all stuck paying into new car production.
We might be getting out of the civic slump. Late 00s civics were not the cars to get. Maybe 2014 is out of the bad gneeration. If you picture a 1994 civic when I say “10 year old civic” I have some bad, bad news. A 2nd gen prius is a good buy. The EV market has cut into the prius used market and gas prices are low again so prices are down. Battery replacement isn’t atrocious.
Not really though…
Even in places where electricity is made with coal it doesn’t take that much mileage before your environmental impact becomes less than a gas car traveling the same distance and as time goes the gap in emissions just becomes wider and wider and wider. By buying the used Civic you’re taking the emissions from the car being produced out of the equation, but you’re still burning gas.
We bought Teslas six years ago. (Why we had to replace two cars in short order is a story for another day.) We did it at least in part because we were “voting with our wallets,” meaning we were trying to signal in our small way to the automotive industry that we wanted EVs.
I hear so few people talking about this fact. The middle and upper class don’t want to hear about any solution unless it involves buying status symbols.
Proving you’re morally superior to the poors is definitely the most important part of combating climate change.
People don’t talk about it because it’s not true.
EV cars emit more to produce but they catch up the difference very quickly even if the electricity they use comes from coal generators. Gas cars total emissions keep increasing over time.
I got a used Nissan Leaf (that was one year old, so people didn’t realize it was used). Everyone was constantly telling me that I should have bought used because the lithium for a new battery is worse than anything else in the world. When I told them it was used, they either said I should have gotten an older one, or they just stopped talking about it.
Wait till their hear how bad gasoline is.
what’s the correct number of years between buying new cars
Whatever number you give, there will be someone on the internet to tell you you’re wrong. Its almost like there isn’t a simple boiled-down answer to this and the each of us has different situations, circumstances, and resources so that there isn’t a single “one size fits all” answer, and even if there was, when a large enough population starts following that one answer, resources dry up and the “right” answer is now wrong.
Hey! My Prius is 14 years old and running! :-)
You would consider selling an object because you don’t share the vendor’s politics?
Do people here apply this reasoning in a consistent manner to all of their daily financial transactions? If so, you’re soon gonna be living in an empty home.
Applying this consistently to all daily transactions is not feasible, of course. But if it were, the world would be a much better place. I definitely try to do it where possible, and by focusing on bigger purchasing decisions you can make a bigger difference so the work isn’t as much overall as analyzing every tiny transaction.
In an ideal world, I agree that would be best. But what about when the vendor is a bad person doing a good thing? That’s what’s happening here.
Yeah then it’s more complicated. I’d say as long as you’re buying another electric vehicle, it’s probably good not to give Musk any more money. But deciding between a gas vehicle or a Tesla, I’d still lean towards Tesla.
Yeah Elon is frankly not rich because your neighbor bought a Tesla. Their actual financials and fundamentals have never been the main driver of their stock price. It’s wild speculation about their future and (mostly false) perceptions about their head start over the whole industry which have driven the stock. And it’s the stock that has driven Elon’s wealth. TBH I think it’s kind of silly to even worry about buying a Tesla, even if you do hate Elon.
Roughly the situation I’m in. I inherited an older model S when my dad passed away last year, and it’s old enough that it has free charging for life. So free car plus free charging (and less than 30k miles on it) equals “hard to pass up.” That said, their customer service has been consistently very terrible (have had it in twice plus a home visit to fix the charge port door not opening - ridiculous especially for such an essential piece of the vehicle), lots of very annoying little issues due to bad software and hardware engineering, and other expensive issues that cropped up due to poor product design and engineering (touchscreen got bubbles in it and had to be replaced - apparently they selected some laptop-type screen to use which can’t tolerate the heat that’s typically reached in a car sitting outside). Would never buy one and have even with the free charging, am still considering selling it to get away from the brand (let alone all of the whacko issues with the CEO).