I’m really convinced everyone in my life really sees me as a full time chore to take care of, I’m actually convinced at this point everyone in my life is a part of a coordinated phyop to keep me from killing myself, everyone has their own option about me but they agree to be outwardly nice. For thoose who don’t understand I’m a chronic emotional abuser, like I don’t outright threaten to kill myself but everyone around me knows I’m always on the verge to sucide. I’m legitimately a toxic horrible person that holds my friends hostage.

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    I’m really convinced everyone in my life really sees me as a full time chore

    I can all but guarantee you’re the only one in your life who thinks that. I know someone a little bit like that (thinking everyone is just being nice when they’re actually annoyed) and it’s steady work to make them feel loved.

    We don’t do that shit because we have to - we don’t - we do it out of real love.

    Suicidal thoughts aren’t a scheme, you didn’t chose to feel this way. Which means you’re not an abuser for feeling them.

    The rest if your paragraph goes a bit off the rails, not sure how literal you mean it though.

    There’s no Truman Show, no psyop, no great charade.
    What people do in real life when they hate someone is they stop engaging. If any of your friends got tired of you you’d notice. They’d disappear from your circles.

    Lastly, please take care of yourself.

    You seem aware of your struggles, so if you are in a position able to seek help please do so. No, you’re not wasting anyone’s time, it’s ltierally therapists job to figure out how to help people.

    They chose this job, and they will do it as long as necessary.

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    When I have thoughts like this I imagine that I am dealing with a friend who is having these thoughts.

    If your friend was constantly struggling with their mental health and you were trying to help them would you call them an toxic, horrible, emotional abuser? I don’t think you would. I certainly don’t feel that way about my friends who struggle.

    I also try to look at the evidence. Is there any actual evidence that people feel this way beyond your own thoughts and feelings?

    Mental health is constant battle and separating real life from your condition can be an incredibly hard but rewarding exercise.

    I’m sorry you’re struggling so much.

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    For thoose who don’t understand I’m a chronic emotional abuser, like I don’t outright threaten to kill myself but everyone around me knows I’m always on the verge to sucide. I’m legitimately a toxic horrible person that holds my friends hostage.

    I know this is gonna sound crazy, but have you considered that you should stop doing that? If you’re deliberately acting suicidal to manipulate people, that’s fucked up, but it does tend to work to some degree. The reason everyone is so fake to you is because you’re fake to them. If you’re going to act like you’re always on the brink of suicide, so will others.

    Why manipulate people to treat you in a way that you don’t want to be treated? That can’t be worth the time and effort.

    You’re the psyop. You created the conditions for the way people act around you. You effectively manipulated the people around you to pity and infantalize you because you act like a wounded animal.

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      Wow, very well put.

      OP: I’d like to recommend a book - “Your Erroneous Zones” by Wayne Dyer. Available on Amazon and used bookstores for a couple bucks. He essentially outlines how to use Cognitive Behavioral Therapy techniques to alter our own mis-thinking, and to develop more effective communication.

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    I’m very sorry you feel this way. I’ve had my share of dark times and they’re not a great place to be. I understand you must be in deep pain and I truly am sorry. <3

    Sorry if this is unwelcome, but maybe don’t be so hard on yourself? In my experience, when dealing with self loathing/hatred, looking at the way I talked to and referred to myself and trying to guide it towards more compassionate and empathic ways was super helpful.

    And if you’re still mad at or ashamed of yourself, something that worked for me to process those emotions was asking myself if I would hold the people I actually love and care about to the same standard, if they did/were what I considered unacceptable for myself to do/be… It wasn’t easy and took some time but eventually I learnt to care about myself and treat myself like a human being.

    You sound like a sensitive person that cares about the people around you to me, and I think that is very valuable. You may be having a real hard time right now, and these people might have to do a bit of extra emotional work here and there, but if they’re choosing to be nice and to stick around… I would guess that they see something in you that maybe you don’t?

    Life’s weird, friend. Sometimes in the depths of the abyss where there is nothing but darkness, you find things that still matter to you, even when gazing deep into the despair… And when you find one of those things, you acquire something that many people consume their entire lives seeking unsuccessfully: meaning.

    There is a way out. I promise. And you can get there. I believe in you! And I love you for sharing this and making yourself vulnerable out of care about the people around you. If you could do me one favor, just please try cutting yourself some slack! You’re worth it! <333

    If you ever need to talk to someone and would like to do so privately, feel free to drop me a dm whenever.

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    If you don’t want to be an emotional abuser, and you’re aware that you are, why not change your behavior?

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      OP isn’t an emotional abuser though, even if they think they are. It’s a symptom of their depression that makes them feel this way.

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        I genuinely think they are. Look at how they frame their question, they didn’t say they were on the verge of suicide at this moment, they just implied it heavily. That is a tactic to manipulate people and conversations. So I think their assessment is accurate.

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        I know you’re being extremely sarcastic. But identifying you have a problem is the first step to recovery. Knowing you are a way that you don’t like being, is great, now you can form a plan on improving it.

        Let’s take the easy example, if you know you’re a very negative person always putting people down. You can deliberately try to find something nice to say everyday. Maybe not a lot, maybe it won’t change the trend, but being more mindful and having an objective is a way to improve. So yes flip the switch. The switch will be very rusty, it’ll require a lot of elbow grease, and you’re probably going to have to wiggle it a bunch. But flip the switch, because you want to flip the switch.

        If you just decide, I’m an asshole and there’s nothing I can do about it, then you’re just going to be an asshole. But if you’re trying to be a reformed asshole, you’re an asshole with a heart of gold

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          Respectfully, I am very confident you are misreading this situation. The thought patterns displayed in the original post are almost textbook typical of major depression and would be extremely atypical of someone who is a genuine emotional manipulator.

          Other posts here have given genuine good advice, unfortunately I have to agree that while I am sure you are well meaning, you are being quite unhelpful here.