These are just examples, I have no opinion on what is the best.
Something like: I like the cameras from the Galaxy s23, the processor from the latest Pixel, the memory from the Razor. I mean whatever. I suppose Iphones could be included, but I figure it’s more locked in than androids, I could be wrong.
Or even replacing a part from one phone with one that’s better, for personal use? Like, even just putting pixel 7 cameras into a pixel 8 phone.
Besides the factory warrenty, and money spent, is it software? Is it having to reconfigure the hardware? Is it just space in general?
If we all have things we don’t like about our phones, why aren’t we able to just make it more to our liking?
Essentially time and cost? Building such a Frankenstein-Phone would probably take you half a year to design the PCBs, get all the connections and power rails right, all the needed peripheral electronics for the chips. Read thousands of pages of datasheets to place the correct capacitors for the oscillator of the … sensor on your mainboard design. (And there are a lot of tiny components in a phone that all work together, in part depend on each other, or require additional control/supply circuits.) You’d need a lab and equipment do build it, and the mechanics and encasing. And probably some takes and failed iterations. And software and drivers also have to be rewritten and patched.
So I’d say if you have the expertise in electrical engineering, hardware design, embedded software programming… A 5 figure(?) sum of money for supplies and equipment and nothing to do in the next year… I’d say nothing is stopping you 😆
Well that seems like more effort than it’s worth… I figured the biggest issue would be fitting it into the phone, but that sounds like least of the worries.
I’d say that I could do it for you, even, given sufficient effort, time and money. However, it would be the size of a shoebox. And don’t you dare open that shoebox or else all the parts are going to come falling out.
The most modular phone right now, which you can open yourself and replace parts with just a screw driver, is the FairPhone. And even that one, you can scavenge parts from older models of the same brand, because the connectors don’t fit. There’s very little space left inside a modern phone.
We should have the right to repair our phones. Imagine if you could never upgrade new parts into your desktop because of a corporation
FairPhone did dip their toes into upgradability with the FP3+ which was basically the same as the FP3 with upgraded camera modules. So people who bought the FP3 were able to buy just the new cameras instead of the whole phone. Unfortunately, the FP4 and FP5 are both again not backwards compatible. Hopefully they start focusing more of maintaining the same design for longer.
Steps are being taken in the right direction. The US has also been making progress, which I’m sure will continue if America doesn’t give up on itself next month.
That said, it’s not nearly enough. As long as the focus is on innovation and growth rather than sustainability, and consumers don’t really give a fuck, it’s going to be difficult to see any change.
But I’m very happy with my Fairphone, and my next laptop will no doubt be a framework. Baby steps.
design compatibility issues and proprietary firmware or software
Imagine you like the shape of the front of a Mini Cooper and the rear of a Ford mustang. You could take the paneling from the interior of a rolls Royce and the seats from a Lamborghini and make a really cool car.
Unfortunately, unlike modern standard PCs, phones are individually designed and built and even models in the same range can’t use each other’s parts or software.
Each component is designed to work with each of the other components and just slapping them together doesn’t necessarily make a new working product.
Don’t forget about device drivers. I can’t even install a newer version of Android on my Android phone because the community never managed to get the antenna to work after upgrading the OS.
You won’t have any of the electrical or protocol/register info or other data for any of the components unless you’re a manufacturer and most parts aren’t really salvageable separately but are essentially one big glob on the board. Even with the skills, you’d need to reverse engineer some of the most complex and hard to use components ever manufactured for consumer use and somehow fit them in places they were never meant to fit.
And yes, software. The board support for the SOC, mostly. Maybe starting off with a pinephone or something might help, but I doubt even that is open and usable enough.
Capitalism, kind of. Practicality, the rest of the way. Mobile parts need to be designed really tightly integrated, because they need to fit exactly into such small spaces, and standardizing them isn’t really feasible without significant pressure on the market (aka, socialism).
The reason desktop PCs can be so standardized is how big they are. Tons of room for customized parts.
LOL, yeah. Capitalism.
The great socialist countries are way ahead with modular, standardized mobile handset components.
Everyone knows the longest-lived PC bus standards came out of the Soviet Union and North Korea in the 80s.
One time I took apart my Nintendo DS. I broke my Nintendo DS.
Another time I took apart my PS2 controller. I broke my PS2 controller.
Now you want me to scrap parts from a phone, and build from scratch??? Aw hell naw!!!
Really, it stems from having a bunch of old phones, bought outright, sitting around collecting dust. Some are obviously too old to be relevant, but there’s a couple that had some great features that kept degrading with the next iteration. HTC front speakers, galaxy camera, a headphone jack, and an SD card slot.
I used to take apart things like my dads old portable handheld TV, or my walkman, after I broke it, to see if I could fix it. It was hit or miss.I got the TV speakers to work again, but I had to get a new walkman. I drew the line at microwaves. But I see these phone breakdowns videos, and it looks kinda simple. I realize that there’s a ton of things going on beyond my (admittedly low) skill set, but wondered how far beyond. Like, was it something I could learn in a reasonable way, or was it just too much.
Seems like it’s wayyyy, far, over my head.
There isn’t, like, a standard like there is for PCs. Everything is custom made for that thing except the microchips themselves. And taking those off and just slapping them on a different board isn’t that simple.
I would love it if they were like a PC though. Build my own phone with this screen and that CPU/GPU, configurable RAM, etc. Why they don’t do that, though? Greed.
Packing all tbose differently sized parts into a tiny form factor is very different from comparably spacious computer cases. Then the power usage handling, and wiring, not to mention heat dissipation.
Not impossible, but being modular like that would increase the cost because doing that costs more in the context of a cell phone form factor. Enough that doing several models will keep the price point where people can afford them.
