The louder the vehicle, the dumber the driver.
I’m driving an EV and I would like to prove you wrong.
I was making tea in a teapot, when I poured in the boiled water and closed the lid, the hot air inside expanding and making the tea overflowing through the spout. In a panic, I quickly used my finger to plug the spout in an attempt to stop the overflowing, and thus burned my finger.
My best friend of 20 years was sitting there and witnessed the whole thing. It has been years since and he’s still bringing it up occasionally.
“A falling knife has no handle.”
Your reflexes were faster than your brain, happens sometimes.
Yep. Every time a blade is dropped I step back and push/pull anyone else away.
I shave with a safety razor and made that mistake once. Thankfully a minor scratch but still scary.
As a kid I got yelled at for breaking the iron, because it fell and I moved instead of catching it.
Once my mom was done, I asked her if a new iron was cheaper than a hospital bill for two burned hands.
She didn’t apologize for yelling, but she said I was right.
Fantastic wit hahaa
Did you drive the teapot?
the future’s gonna be fun, watching these idiots lose their entire identity - vroom vroom - to the inescapable fact that they’re killing themselves and our environment with their bullshit.
the temper tantrums are going to be hilarious, and more than a few will die to hold on to their noisemaking smog machines, because to them, that’s freedom.
What do you mean the future? It’s happening now. One party has ran on “the EPA is trying to ban cars.”
Why the fuck is cringe censored?
It’s probably a typo. The n key is right above the spacebar. I make the same mistake quite often.
It’s probably a typo. The n key is right above the spacebar. I make the same mistake quite ofte .
Missed opportu ity right there.
Its a bad word to some.
So we’ve become reddit?
New Rule: if the motorcycle you purchased exceeds noise ordinance levels for a given area, said motorcycle cannot be sold, driven, or registered in that area, nor can it be parked in a public parking spot in that area.
Honestly though, I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances and anyone with more than one violation would have their bike impounded.
Several traffic cameras in the Netherlands have been upgraded with decibel meters as part of a test. I hope this becomes the norm for all the cameras.
I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances
I live next to a catholic church/school and sometimes on the weekend or near sunset a local kid rides his motocross bike all around the church yard. Annoying as fuck and it chews up the yard and everything. I’ve called the cops three or four times but they’ve never bothered to send an officer out. I called the church and all they did was install a bunch of super-bright LED lights which are on 24 hours a day. Kid still rides his bike there and now I can’t sit outside at night anymore because of the fucking lights.
Gather up your neighbors and have them come and strategically park their cars on the church yard, physically blocking the kid’s path. If he can trespass, so can you.
It’s way too big for that, and most of it you could only get to with a bike. That’s pretty much why he goes there.
Where I live, the police would need the authorization of the church to enforce trespassing on their private property, so if the kid is waiting until there’s no one at the church, he pretty much gets a free ticket until a bunch of hoops are jumped through.
We basically have this in Japan. People will put their bike back to factory for the inspection and then change it out. They get caught rarely, but not often. loud-assed 暴走族 (bousouzoku) groups love to ride around in the countryside where I live and I can hear them from quite far. I really wish the police would do something about them.
I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances
Easier said than done, unfortunately. They need sound meters to do anything reliably, and then there’s the issue of catching them. Even slow, inefficient bikes tend to be much faster and more maneuverable than patrol cars, so motorcyclists are quite a bit more likely to run. Especially the ones that are already violating noise ordinances.
You know what is faster than a motor bike?
Radiowaves.
The police patrol knows the direction that the biker is going, call a patrol there.
Light is also faster than a motor bike, get a recording of the license plate and use that to find it.
Or if the church/neighbours simply start logging the guy’s schedule, give it to the police and have them wait for him.
I’m fine with bikes being noisy. Bikes can be hard to see, sometimes I hear them before I see them.
I’m not fine with douchenozzles intentionally revving them up in otherwise quiet subdivisions as the OP describes.
There is no statistical evidence that louder motorcycles are safer.
And the people who say “loud pipes save lives” often don’t wear helmets, which statistically are safer. Not all motorcyclists are full of shit, but a hell of a lot of them are.
Huh. I was taught this for years as a rider.
Did some searching and well damn.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a35952569/loud-pipes-do-not-save-lives/
That’s interesting. Thanks for the info.
It does help me mentally though. Sometimes the lies we tell ourselves help.
This is the classic argument for loud bikes, and it shows a lack of understanding physics and human nature.
Physics, the sound is generated by the exhaust pointing backwards, this means that the sound doesn’t propagate well ahead of the bike, but way better behind the bike.
Human nature, human nature when hearing a loud sound is to find the source, however, by the time a driver has heard the sound the source have often passed, causing a needless distraction. Also, bikes tend to make a very basy sound, this is terrible for humans to hear the direction of.
Finally, if bikers are so concerned about being noticed by other drivers, why don’t they wear high visibility vests and trousers?
Most bikes are not bassy it’s mostly thumpers and harleys that are bassy. Just wait until you get passed by a bunch of squids on sport bikes with parallel twins and I4s, those are much higher, and represent a large percentage of the bikers out there.
Also, I’m grateful that my bike is loud. I don’t rev it to high hell though, but an additional sensory input for the fuckhead texting on the freeway is not a bad thing. A lot of people where I live (Seattle) don’t pay attention on the road and it’s pretty scary on a bike surrounded by them sometimes. Sometimes it is simply not possible to have a decent safety bubble when there’s traffic.
Most bikes are not bassy it’s mostly thumpers and harleys that are bassy.
Fair critisism.
Just wait until you get passed by a bunch of squids on sport bikes with parallel twins and I4s, those are much higher
I know, they attract idiots who refuse to keep the playtime to the track, and endanger everyone else.
an additional sensory input for the fuckhead texting on the freeway is not a bad thing.
The depends on the stimuli, a sudden loud noise as a bike zooms past a distracted driver is a TERRIBLE “sensory input” as you say, it could easily cause the driver to swerve causing a big accident which would not happen if not for the noise triggering it.
You could, and should argue that the distracted driver should not have been driving distractedly, I would however add that the biker should not have driven past at so high speed that they other drivers only notice them once they have passed.
loud pipes save morons not intelligent enough to drive defensively.
the idea that your shitmobile must blast 100db just for the rider’s safety is absolute bullshit sold by harley boomers, they don’t care about painfully loud noises, they’ve already replaced their hearing with tinnitus and want everyone else to enjoy the never ending eEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE too.
I agree with you, and I absolutely don’t wish harm or accidents to anyone on a motorcycle.
A guy in my neighborhood just bought a motorcycle. He doesn’t rev it up or try to be inconsiderate, but just the act of twisting the throttle to drive away at a slow speed violates the city noise ordinance and can be heard for a half mile or more.
sometimes I hear them before I see them.
Maybe you should try looking?
It is very easy to not see a motorcycle. Very easy. And due to the way our brains work, their small size can make us seem further away than we actually are.
I would rather visual indicators of their presence like a flashing light of a specific color
maybe the can wear an indicator, a big floppy one on top of their helmets, preferably flesh tinted and mushroom shaped - so everyone can easily see the pricks
Not sure why you’re being downvoted.
I’ve been riding for years but had to renew my license. The motorcycle tests now has a section where you have to find the motorcyclist in the rain.
And honestly, that section broke me. I love riding in dark colors on my dark bike. But I’d be god damn near invisible in the rain.
And I wished this test was forced on everybody (motorcyclists, car heads, hell even bike riders).
Yeah something like flashing or cycling cym on the back and sides. As long as it’s unmistakable it’s good. Noise is a huge disruption and it isn’t clear about location. Lights are
It’s only visible from the back, but more bikes are coming equipped with brake lights that strobe for a second when activated to get more attention. (We only have one rear brake light, compared to three on cars). And now it’s easy to find add-on helmet lights that also activate with the brakes. Not the all-rounder lighting you’re talking about, but early info seems promising.
That’s good. I want y’all to be visible and safe, I just really don’t want y’all to wake the dead riding past
It’s a perfectly normal hobby for 100% straight, manly, conservative, white (did I mention straight?) men, who like to meet up with other 100% straight men, to wear skin-tight leather suits and enjoy the strong vibrations of their hot Harley engine between their legs.
Okay, but just to be clear, assless chaps are still super hetero, right?
Right?
And those motocross. My family lives in a rural area with a rail trail. So to go there I often just cycle on the rail trail.
Unfortunately it’s also used by a local motocross group. They’re not supposed to but they obviously don’t give a fuck.
At least you can hear them coming from kilometres away. Which is interesting because the police or whoever is supposed to enforce “bicycles only” on that bike path doesn’t seem to hear them. Nor see the very obvious tracks.
The most insulting part is that they close the path in fall, winter and spring because they don’t want CYCLISTS to damage the bike path, yet there’s assholes on motocross driving on it.
What’s the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?
Location of the dirt bag.
A dirt bag is a very useful part of the vacuum cleaner, clearly it’s a compliment.
If its any consolation wrt Harley riders, the company is losing customers to old age, and attempts to appeal to the younger generation just get the old one (their existing base) mad enough to protest loudly against it, leading to the rep of it being a weekend warrior bike for grandpa to live his never was (as opposed to has been) biker fantasy. Not gonna stop a particular brand of pencil-dicks from making their cars loud and obnoxious, ofc, but still, take w’s where you can.
South Park completely nailed the “removeds” episode. That was one for the ages. Aww c’mon, are we really worse than Reddit when it comes to censorship? Goddammit… Seems the “removeds” won.
South Park completely nailed the “removeds” episode. That was one for the ages. Aww c’mon, are we really worse than Reddit when it comes to censorship? Goddammit… Seems the “removeds” won.
Can you reveal what’s behind the censorship enforced by Lemmy.world without triggering it?
Alternatively I would suggest you look for another instance that isn’t draconian.
I’m assuming he is talking about the biker gang episode, in which case he is probably talking about the F-word (meaning the slur against gay people).
Personally, I think having a filter against slurs is not unreasonableContext is key though. I’d say allow everything and let the downvotes be a filter.
Lemmy is still relatively new, and you grow the audience you nurture.
A lack of moderation means that racists, bigots, general assholes, etc, will find an easier time settling on this platform.
And I’ll be honest, if that would be where Lemmy is headed I’m not sticking around to see it turn into that cesspoolI’m personally quite happy with the level of moderation I’m seeing on lemmy.world. It’s not overly heavy handed, but it seems to generally be applied where it makes sense to apply. Essentially the “don’t be a dick” rules of the forum days of old.
Somewhat.
If the poster themselves removed it, then no - these usually shows up as “deleted” rather than “removed” (but not always). Sometimes apps that don’t properly pay attention to the removal request can still see these, but I know of no effective way to view these routinely, short of spinning up your own instance and archiving not only every post and comment but also all of their edits as well.
For mod removal, you can check the modlog (for your instance here, or the one for Lemmy.World, both of which theoretically should show the same contents, but in practice they don’t for whatever reasons). Note that is the entire modlog for the entire Fediverse, so it requires filtering to find the specific post/comment that you want to know about. The Lemmy devs could help people see the modlog much easier, but they don’t. They don’t seem too big on such democratic efforts, and very often simply ban people outright, from the entire instance including communities they’ve never once visited, if you ever criticize what they say or if you say something that they do not agree with. Though they did recently release a feature to allow mods to do this - further increasing the power of the establishment, while leaving common plebes like us to have to filter the modlog (which also can hide the identity of the mod who removed it).
Ergo, I would not hold my breath waiting for this feature. At least not on Lemmy, but perhaps from the more democratically-managed PieFed or Sublinks or Mbin or such… I could really see that happening for those?
Edit: oh but for text like the “removed”, hell no, that’s also a lost cause - at least, again, on the Lemmy codebase, unless you use an instance that decides not to implement the language filtering.
while I actually loved that south park episode and their point that words (that word specifically) change their meaning over time, the “answer” they came up with is a joke of course. A joke that only works because bikers are upset and confused by the ‘real’ meaning of ‘flag’. If the original meaning didn’t exist it couldn’t be used to hurt the bikers’ feelings, it relies on its existing meaning to hurt them.
You cannot forcibly change what words mean. No matter how hard Trey and Matt wish they were iconoclasts and as much as i appreciate them? They REALLY aren’t as clever as they think they are. What they did, if they had succeeded would just allow CHUDs to yell ‘flag’ at homosexuals and pretend they were calling them bikers, so it’s a good thing it flopped.
As cool as it would be if “bundle of sticks” stopped being a slur, the slur itself is not the problem, the intent is. Intent behind calling bikers ‘flags’ is to make them feel like you’re calling them homosexuals, relies on homosexuality itself being a slur. The end. No debate. Full stop. It doesn’t even change anything, its hurting feelings RELIES on the meaning we currently agree on. Feel me?
Totally agree on all counts. As a teen when it originally aired I thought it was funny for the reasons you outlined (Trey and Matt’s intent) but yes in 2024 it just isn’t okay anymore (if it ever was at all) and I bet Trey and Matt agree and wouldn’t make that episode today
According to Wikipedia, that slur is really only used in the US and Canada. If you go to the UK and say it, they will hand you a cigarette.
Mods are Bikecurious
I’ve been thinking of getting a motorcycle, and Harley has no entry level bikes So new riders try a Honda or Kawasaki when young and broke and build brand loyalty to that, I’m sure.
Not surprising Harley is dying. All their stuff is so expensive you never get to figure out if it’s good or if they’re coasting on reputation while quality goes to shit or something.
The only reason really to get a Harley is to… Get a Harley. There are other bikes that are cheaper, more powerful, more comfortable, more reliable, and objectively better in most regards.
Fucking good. I so hate Harleys.
Hopefully the incel crowd will succeed in branding them as ‘too woke’ or whatever and once the boomers are all dead, that’s it
We really do not value quiet enough.
And the people here who’s idea of a utopia is all of us living in Mega City One are the worst of them.
I used to play WoW with a guy in London, and literally every time he opened his mic to speak, it was a cacophony of sirens and cars and helicopters. I don’t know how people in cities can even here themselves think. Like, great, you can order from 20 different Chinese takeaways but at what cost?
I’m in DC and NYC a lot, and the places I stay are almost always pretty quiet areas (cause I’m not staying in the hotbed touristy/party-y areas)
Even in cities, most people have average boring 9 to 5 jobs and need to sleep at night. When you get away from those particular areas (of course Times Square isnt indicative of the “norm,” right?) its all pretty mundane actually.
Other folks will probably reply with “Cities aren’t loud, cars are loud” but sirens and helicopters will still be there even if there aren’t cars.
Plus if the city is quiet suddenly I’m all anxious because I don’t want to bother anyone with my noise. Social anxiety and cities do not mix.
How many of those sirens are responding to a car related accident?I would assume a signifcant amount. They may also be able to use their sirens less if streets were less congetsed. I’m also much more forgiving hearing a siren responding to an emergency than hearing a modfiied honda fart all the way to McDonalds.
Not doing anything about car noise pollution just because sirens and helicopters still exist is a poor solution.
I’m just saying that even if there weren’t any cars it would still be too loud for me to feel comfortable.
Then again if it’s too quiet I still wouldn’t feel comfortable.
tl;dr I don’t like cities. Or suburbs. Or people, really.
Most people suggesting we should densify are targeting suburbs, not rural areas. Suburbs are incredibly expensive and environmentally wasteful per square inch. They have all the utility of a city but spread out with more asphalt, cement, power, sewer, water, gas, cheap inefficient homes that leach heat/ac at an alarming rate, etc.
In rural areas the infrastructure isn’t always as expensive because some residents have their own septic and well, live on a dirt road, heat with a wood furnace, etc. A few of those things are also more renewable. Additionally, rural areas are still required for our way of living (farming, logging, mining, fishing), while suburbs have negative societal value (they take more than they put back into the system).
I suspect the suburb issue is one of car centric US suburbs where you can’t even get out of it without a car, rather than somewhere like the UK, where I effectively live in what is now a suburb of a larger city (if I drove there, it’s about ten miles, through an entirely built up area), but that “suburb” is also a town that’s been here since medieval times with it’s own shops and workplaces and facilities.
Seems to me the issue is less about low density suburbs, and more about the fact that there’s nothing there apart from rows and rows of identikit housing.
Absolutely, North America has a special level of stupidity. To clarify yes, the suburbs in the US mostly don’t even have a real town center, many are just residential, malls, and big box stores. The average property size and spread is also often much less dense than nearly any suburb in the UK. So the infrastructure and environmental cost is much much higher.
Had a friend who said he was considering removing the exhaust on his bike because it would sound cooler, everyone else in the friendgroup said we would pour sugar in his gastank if he ever did that
Thank you for your service
Sugar in the gas tank doesn’t do anything. You gotta put in the oil fill cap.
Huh, yeah it seems the sugar in the gastank thing is just a myth, but won’t sugar in the oil have the same issue? Sugar is insoluble so it can’t pass through the oil filter, so it’ll just chill in the filter and oil pan?
It will get in the moving parts, melt, caramelize, and seize the engine that way.
I have one of these assholes next door. It could be 4 in the morning and said shit, revving in the driveway for ten+ minutes before riding off. Then you still have to wait for them to get a hold away before you get any peace. These same shit stains are always blasting classic rock through their tiny motorcycle speakers loud enough to hear over the already deafening exhaust.
But he’s not even the worst offender on my street. There are three homes, each with more vehicles than driveway that have diesel trucks and wannabe race cars. For whatever reason these idiots all leave their shit idling for up to an hour at a time. It is not unusual for multiple vehicles to just be running at any given time day or night while my personal possessions vibrate uncontrollably. There may also be music blasting from one or more of these vehicles. The noise is the worst part but depending on the wind I also get exhaust fumes entering my bedroom when I’m just trying to exist.
If you guessed that this is in Florida you’d be right. Can’t wait to escape this hellhole.
Just wait until you get these idiots:
He added the extra suspension on the wrong end.
He got that Curralina squat
dude…your bike is farting so loud you gave grandma a heart attack…that’s not as cool as you imagine it to be :/
Somehow, it’s more annoying to me when it’s someone’s beat up Honda Civic that they’ve deliberately modded to be louder than thunder. Like…really?
I wish I could find a city that actually enforced noise ordinances against loud vehicles. Every city I’ve lived in has been way too fucking loud for me to handle, so now I have to drive everywhere because the alternative is live in a city and be driven insane by noise pollution.
I’d like it if they would enforce noise ordinances at all.
