Some of their complain is really unhinged.

  • Naich@lemmings.world
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    26 days ago

    Decades of pandering to drivers has resulted in feelings of massive entitlement, where any move towards equality of transport is seen as an attack on their fundamental rights. It’s going to be difficult (if not impossible) to shift. Round here the prospect of lowering speed limits causes such angst and wailing and anger that you would think they were being asked to poke their eyes out with a stick, rather than add an extra 30 seconds on to their journey time. When you take a step back and view it with open eyes, it’s utterly ridiculous.

    I guess we’ll continue having these sorts of battles over transport infrastructure until the generation with this panicky car-centric entitlement dies out.

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    26 days ago

    What I find perhaps the most worrisome about this whole ‘revolt’ and that these people believe it’s some sort of conspiracy that brought about these bike lines, is that this is a result of them never having chatted with the parents of Jimmy from three doors down the road, who are worried about their son biking to school.

    If they had any connection to Jimmy’s family, that alone would override any mild concerns they might have about being inconvenienced. They don’t have that connection, because they walk out the door, climb into their car and then emerge from it 3 miles later. You don’t meet anyone living on your road that way.

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    26 days ago

    The ageist bit was funny to me. My cycling group is around half retirees on any given meetup.

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    26 days ago

    I never heard the argument “have bike path is discriminatory to elders”, and the guy in the video rightfully say “Not having bike path is discriminatory to children” (because they can’t drive and put themself in danger in shared road)

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      There are some scenarios, where biking can have negative effects on elderly people: Those cases where there is no explicit cycling infrastructure and foot and bike traffic is squeezed together. Or when elderly people are in need of a parking spot near to their homes and have no possibilities to park on their own property. But the real problem in those cases is bad planning.

      But those dickheads in the video had clearly no interest to speak about real problems.

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      23 days ago

      My area’s mall is pretty nice and like most malls it’s got plenty of area to walk, stores to explore, enough security to deter people from doing anything too crazy. It’s a great spot for middle school and high school kids! But if you don’t have a car how do you even get there?

      There’s suburbs all around so it should be in easy biking distance and moderate walking distance. But it’s surrounded by 4 lane roads without a single crosswalk or even sidewalks. Busses don’t run there either.

      So thanks to decades of car only design best non motorized way to get there is to take a kayak…yes a kayak…and use a creek to get to the area behind the mall and walk in from there. I only know that because my parents did it once to see if it could be done.

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    26 days ago

    Even with this edited version that tears down each argument as it came by, I still felt like my brain cells were dying.