cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18475086

I’m not against those who work for sex, but the idea to earn for a living doesn’t seem nice. IMO, sex should be for 2 people (or more for others who prefer polyamory) who wants to be intimate/romantic with each other. My point is money should not be the purpose.

  • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 months ago

    Are you the only person using that definition?

    Because traditionally English speaking Marxists use them the other way around, as far as I remember, if they make that distinction at all.

    See for example:

    https://www.triple-c.at/index.php/tripleC/article/download/546/598#:~:text=In the Marxist tradition%2C the,(Fuchs and Sevignani 2013).

    (Posted without endorsement)

    EDIT

    Apparently the English edition includes a footnote by Friedrich Engels:

    As has been stated in a previous note, the English language has two different expressions for these two different aspects of labour: in the Simple Labour-process, the process of producing Use-Values, it is *Work; *in the process of creation of Value, it is *Labour, *taking the term in its strictly economic sense. — F. E.

    Which reads very much like you are using them wrong.

    • InputZero@lemmy.ml
      2·
      7 months ago

      They are not the only person who uses the words for each other. When I was doing my undergrad I found that myself and my fellow students used them pretty loosely goosey. As a native English speaker I’ve never had any difficulty telling which way a speaker intended labor and work to mean. The context provided enough. I can see how for people who are not native English speakers, but this isn’t an academic institution. In casual conversation either or are appropriate.

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
      1·
      7 months ago

      This isn’t in the context of utility value vs exchange value. This is separating value creation from the mode of production.

      • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        2·
        7 months ago

        Be that as it may, your ad hoc definition in your first comment was spurious and finds no basis in English language Marxist literature.

        • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
          1·
          7 months ago

          Can you phrase this as constructive criticism for which are the proper words to use in this seperate use case or do I need to refer you to the constructive criticism handbook?

          Also, establishing working definitions for use in casual conversation is a thing. Please note that I established definitions for their use.