• cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible. This time they are voting for Nazis. Horseshoe theory proved correct yet again?

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      5 months ago

      The horseshoe theory is still bullshit, as is assuming GDR was a “far left” opposite to far right AfD nowadays.

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        5 months ago

        as is assuming GDR was a “far left”

        Communism isn’t far left? TIL

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          5 months ago

          Authoritarian communism has more to do with authoritarian fascism than it does with mainstream leftist ideologies.

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            How do the workers own the means of production if the state controls everything? Especially a state that only allows certain kind of person into the controlling party. An upper class, you might say.

            Even if they own it, and the state demands a 90% tax on production, what do they really own?

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              You see, the state simply claims to be the workers - or rather their chosen representative.

              Therefore, since the state owns everything, the workers must own everything. The GDR was so far left, they even ensured workers wouldn’t accidentally self-harm their means of production through strikes, how kind of them.

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              Under a capitalist society, workers gain influence by joining a strike, union, or worker co-op. A state is a corporation that owns the means of violence. Under a capitalistic society this is used to protect the capital class. Under a more socialistic society a state becomes less important.

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      Imo, it moreso proves that poverty causes desperation, desperation causes people to be way more susceptible to political extremism.

      I don’t think this has anything to do with the GDR except for the fact that it left east Germany in poverty.

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        if you’re driving through East German cities you know why they’re voting populist right wing parties. there’s no work, poverty and half of the houses are empty because a lot of the people already left.

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          5 months ago

          That’s half the explanation.
          The economic and social decline makes people susceptible to populists.

          But the other half is this:
          They’re not the only populists.
          To vote for outright, obvious Neo-Nazis you also have to ok with Neo-Nazis.

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      This time they are voting for Nazis.

      Again. They were also one of the first ones where the NSDAP got their chunk of votes.

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      Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible.

      https://lemmy.today/post/11881508

      Germany: Largest party in 2024 EU elections vs 1947 west/east Germany division

      I think that the real issue here is that Walter Model did an effective job of halting Operation Market Garden.

      That was pre-Yalta, and my guess is that if it had succeeded, the occupation lines probably would have been further east.