Breakfast cereal served the standard way, in a bowl with cold milk poured on and eaten with a spoon. Does this count as a soup, why or why not? Defend your answer with logic (or emotion, whatever I’m not your dad)
It’s starchy chunks in a dairy based broth, so chowder.
I think most people categorize chowder under the soup umbrella though.
As long as it’s hot and soupy, I consider it a soup, unless it’s more of a stew. Actually no, stew could be considered a subset of soup. That means I also don’t recognize gazpacho as soup.
What if you heat up the gazpacho?
Then you have a warm vegetable smoothie. I think cooking is important. But I guess stove top gazpacho would count then. But so would an actual fruit smoothie thrown in a pot, and I don’t like that idea. And I guess cereal too. Christ.
My internal inconsistencies leave me confused, I’m going to rethink my life over a bowl of what may or may not be soup.
Is tomato bisque a soup or a warm vegetable smoothie?
It’s got sea bugs in it so it’s not only veggies.
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I learned what aglet was from a piracy check back in the day.
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Breakfast Cereal is cold instant porridge. We just usually eat it before it turns to the mush it was intended to be.
A potage is a category of thick soups, stews, or porridges, in some of which meat and vegetables are boiled together with water or milk until they form a thick mush. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_soups
∴ Breakfast Cereal ∈ Instant porridge ∈ Porridge ∈ Potage ∈ Soups
This gets the best answer award
According to the cube rule it’s nachos.
We create concepts like soup because they’re useful, not because such concepts represent the true underlying state of the universe. So whether a cereal is a soup depends on the reason you care about soups.
It’s chowder
It’s tea. Or maybe a cold soup, in the way that a taco is a sandwich.
(Preparation and ingredient rebels can make anything tea.)
I love this. Gonna drink my clogged gutter water tea tonight. 😊
Is a tree stump a chair?
Semantics is the FUN way to question reality.
Are you sitting on it? Could it be sat upon?
Chair confirmed.
a very philosophical question. Like the age old “Are hot dogs sandwiches?” debate
I argue that a hotdog is not a sandwich and the bun is not split through entirely and it is generally presented with the bread to the sides putting it into the roll category. A sandwich has bread spilt entirely through and uses horizontal stacking for assembly
You’re right. Hotdogs are tacos.
You mean like a sub sandwich?
In all fairness, I only know them as subs mainly because of Subway. Before that, I probably would have considered it a roll.
But I am Australian
No. Cereal thrown into a broth might be a soup. Now, if we want to talk about whether a caffe latte is a soup, there’s a conversation.
Broth is not a requirement for soup lol
What soup has no broth?
watch them say “cereal”
Okroshka. It can be made with kefir, beer, kvass, plain water or a mix of those things.
What if I leave the bowl of cereal for a while, extracting the flavours of the cereal into the milk? Boom, it’s broth now.
Why would it be? Soup is made primarily out of vegetables and typically served hot. Honestly, why not just look up “Soup” on Wikipedia or a dictionary.
Chowder. Gazpacho.
Be vegetables aren’t a defined thing. One marketing push and all of a sudden cereal is technically a vegetable.
Uh, no. Vegetables are a defined thing, specifically for culinary purposes.
Defined how? They’re a grouping of roots, fruits, leaves, and tubers.
Wait, grains and beans and seeds too.
Btw I have an avocado pit, let me think how to make vegetarian soup with it. Got any recipes??
Through their culinary use in the kitchen. But you’re just here arguing about semantics anyway.
I realized that I definitely wandered beyond the topic at hand. OP’s whole idea is to argue a culinary term, and “vegetable” is a culinary term.
But you’re just here arguing about semantics anyway.
Well duh, this is a post about the meaning of soup. We’re all here arguing semantics. Anyway, if you can justify the meaning of “vegetable” by its culinary use in the kitchen, then we might as well shortcut this chain of thinking and use that argument directly for soup.
Clearly cereal is not a soup, going by its culinary use in the kitchen.
wow wheat is actually a fruit! TIL
You know, I was originally on team “yes”, but this changed my mind.
I mean if we go further that way then a swimming pool is also a soup.
“a hot tub is just people soup”
@enjoytemple @Cybermonk_Taiji if it’s a toddler swimming class and there’s a bunch of babies wearing diapers, does it make it a dumpling soup?
Dumplings from time to time bring their own (pool) noodles too.
It’s a non-traditional soup usually served cold.
Edit to add logic. There are plenty of milk-based soups, and I don’t think that baking ingredients ahead of time and adding them cold changes the dish from being a soup. Maybe we’re missing out on some delicious hot soup leaving cereal cold?
It’s weird soup, but soup nonetheless.
On cold mornings I know people who heat up the milk.
No, it’s a creamy pasta dish.
Cereals are killers.
Mostly on TV.Defend your answer with logic
I know it because my wife watches them nearly every night.
