Asking as there has been a few comments mentioning this with the new !stardewvalley@lemm.ee taking over !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for additional context on those recent events if you are interested

Also, an older post for more context on how lemmy.ml is managed: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I’m trying to keep !simracing@lemmy.ml active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities

  • poszod@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    26 days ago

    I’ve blocked the instance quite a while ago. In the beginning I was just blocking communities, but the users spill everywhere unless you go nuclear.

      • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
        5·
        24 days ago

        You can’t really. I mean you can block an instance, but that only hides the communities that are on it - you’ll still see the users. The only way I know how to ditch the users, besides blocking each one individually, would be to make a new account on either dubvee.org or Lemmy.cafe where all 3 of the big 3 are completely defederated. Think of those instances as troll-blockers, working hard to keep the Fediverse pleasant to converse in:-).

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    16·
    26 days ago

    No, there are no instances whose communities I refuse to participate on. I have never blocked a community, user, or instance here.

    • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      26 days ago

      Oh man I don’t know how I would use this place if I couldn’t block communities. First few weeks I try to use Lemmy every single post was just memes so I’d end up blocking like two dozen communities to stop it.

      • spookex@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        25 days ago

        Not to mention just randomly scrolling in public and whoops, it’s a random porn clip brought to you by lemmynsfw

  • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    25 days ago

    Previously no. Now yes. Apparently got banned for inciting ‘peril’ against my own race because tankies don’t know the difference between ethnically Chinese and of Chinese nationality, and apparently you can’t criticize china in the forums. Throw in a few abusive individuals from the same instance shooting off the mouth and I pretty much said fuck it, I’m out.

  • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.eeEnglish
    10·
    25 days ago

    Yep. Even if it’s larger, I’ll post in a smaller, non-ml. I don’t mind reading their stuff and them existing but with the seemingly random moderation shenanigans, I avoid it.

  • squirrel@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    10·
    26 days ago

    Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I’m trying to keep !simracing@lemmy.ml active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities

    I would vote for moving it elsewhere. Maybe lemmy.zip would be a good instance that’s focused around tech and gaming. Or discuss.tchncs.de because !trucksim@discuss.tchncs.de and !diysimulators@discuss.tchncs.de are already hosted there.

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOPEnglish
      4·
      26 days ago

      You are a very active poster here, so moving it to that instance would also be convenient in case you need to mod

      Also, that instance is very well managed, always impressed with the other services they offer.

      Based on the comments, it seems like we should definitely suggest this. Would you like to make a meta post or do I do it?

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
    102·
    26 days ago

    lemmy.ml tends to have an immature userbase with immature mods. It’s a weird bubble of insane extremists that are all about ideological purity tests. They aren’t really interested in discussion and will ban anyone that doesn’t conform to their extremism. And their extremists are constantly edging towards stochastic terrorism.

    So needless to say, I’m banned from lemmy.ml, and I feel like that’s a badge of honour. But that does mean I won’t be engaging with any community that’s hosted on lemmy.ml.

    So if you want to have discussion that’s not about how super awesome the violent overthrow of the government of your country would be, I’d recommend not hosting your community on lemmy.ml.

    • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
      4·
      24 days ago

      So what you are saying is that since you are banned from lemmy.ml, you cannot participate in communities such as Firefox@lemmy.ml, for reasons entirely unrelated to anything that you said in that community?

      Which means conversely that from your perspective, that entire community - and all others likewise hosted on lemmy.ml - are “held hostage” behind you either outright agreeing with whatever stance is taken by the instance admins, about whatever subject matters they choose to be the defining criteria for exclusion from the instance, or else at least you need to STFU about your true thoughts, about e.g. China, and capitalism, and Russia, and whatever else they feel like adding at any given moment.

      It would have been nice to have had a warning presented to you, wouldn’t it? Like when you first go there, have a popup or sidebar note saying “Warning: you must agree that neither China nor Russia is actively engaging in genocide in order to participate in this community discussion about… <checks notes> the popular Firefox web browser”.

      I bet reading the sidebar notice presented on lemmy.ca did not quite prepare you for that!?!?!?

      It would be nicer to segregate “political” communities and instances from apolitical ones. Except these days, facts themselves are political, and all we can do is suck it and swallow.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        23 days ago

        Yeah it’s really lame… seems like the ban is permanent, so I went ahead and blocked lemmy.ml. No point in seeing content from communities that some self-righteous admin decided I shouldn’t be allowed to interact with.

        It is what it is. I already left reddit because of their bullshit owners. There’s still way better communities on reddit than on lemmy.ml, and as bullshit as the owners of reddit are, they’re still not as bad as the owners of lemmy.ml. So if it were really an issue to me I’d just go back to reddit. But it’s fun to discuss things in smaller communities so I’ll stick with lemmy, just not lemmy.ml.

        • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
          4·
          23 days ago

          Yeah that’s what I am starting to realize over the last couple of days - that while Reddit was bad, in some ways at least, they were less bad than Lemmy, or as you say at least lemmy.ml.

          The key ingredient there is the transparency: Huffman may be a dick, but at least he is upfront about things: “you are landed gentry, under MY dominion, mu-wha-ha-ha now all will bow before me” indeed, but contrast that to claiming that lemmy.ml is for “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers.” - but did you get banned for spouting paid software? Or for violating privacy? No, or at least doubtful (I didn’t look:-). Look at the four rules - which ones did you break, that would warrant a site-wide ban? Some people get banned for none, e.g. for claiming that they have Uyghur family members staying with them who have experienced discrimination and potential genocide and… BAM, ban hammer. Bc neither Russia nor China can ever do any wrong - it is the USA that is “evil”, that is “capitalist”, and “democratic”, and “doing genocide”, but again, not precious Russia or China that does so.

          I am looking heavily into alternatives that will allow banning lemmy.ml users across the Fediverse. One is lemmy.cafe, another is the Tesseract UI as implemented e.g. on dubvee.org, and another is Mbin (maybe, unless a bug no longer allows that? I saw one report of such anyway, but don’t have an account so cannot confirm), and I am leaning heavily towards joining PieFed, bc it’s so exciting what it is positioning itself to become in the future. Sublinks too but it never seems to be updating anymore, so I guess it’s stalled somehow.

          Dessalines can do as he pleases. If we don’t like it, we can leave Lemmy. Those are our options.

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
    91·
    26 days ago

    i tend to not even notice, usually picking a community by volume of subs and posting. its hard to keep up with the terrible modding in places as ive subbed to over 800 active communities in various instances. i dont block instances. at minimum, i want to see whats going on.

    i dont recall specific issues with .ml but .world seems specifically egregious with its power trip modding, based on how ive been ‘reprimanded’… its amazing how they want to kill activity/enthusiasm in some subs that are desperate for content.

    it feels like once an instance gets a solid level of user account churn, they feel they can do whatever to end users as there will just be more. its reddit all over again in places.

    the power modding is somewhat shocking to me as the threadiverse really isnt all that large. i guess it doesnt take much for those people.

    some of the only users ive silenced are mods

  • N-E-N@lemmy.caEnglish
    6·
    25 days ago

    I never pay attention to, or care about where a community is hosted

  • Microw@lemm.eeEnglish
    6·
    26 days ago

    No. I have blocked a few specific lemmy.ml communities but I don’t generally avoid interacting with lemmy.ml.

    There are other instances I have blocked completely (a certain grad).

  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    93·
    25 days ago

    I see more content complaining about .ml than I see content on .ml worth complaining about.

    I generally don’t block instances, communities, or users, either. I just know I am capable of recognizing a shit take on politics anywhere and can move on without existential or social crisis.

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
      61·
      25 days ago

      I just know I am capable of recognizing a shit take on politics anywhere

      Not when the “shit take” in question is the arbitrary, capricious, unjustified removal of thoughtful, insightful, accurate, reasonable posts and comments. You (generally) can’t recognize the “shit take” of removing good content unless you spend all day reading the mod logs.

      • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        31·
        25 days ago

        No, but I can almost always check the modlog when a user complains about how their thoughtful, insightful, accurate, and reasonable post or comment was arbitrarily, capriciously, and unjustly removed.

        And that comparison rarely disappoints.

        • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
          8·
          25 days ago

          No, but I can almost always check the modlog when if a user complains

          FTFY.

          The authors of thoughtful, insightful, accurate, and reasonable posts and comments tend to be the kind of people who choose their battles, and quietly walk away from communities led by power-tripping dipshits.

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      24 days ago

      I only block communities. I don’t want to see half of conversations, and haven’t encountered a whole server where they refuse to admin properly.

    • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
      3·
      24 days ago

      That’s bc you are an established user who knows their way around how to use Lemmy. Perhaps you even use Arch btw? (/s, but only partway, bc those of who enjoy the customizability of Linux really are a breed apart from the mainstream, in terms of our value judgements in particular)

      However new users to Lemmy find it very off-putting. Also, people in the USA are touchy, watching our democracy crumble before our very eyes - there is something like a 50% chance that it won’t survive even though the next year, regardless of who wins, but if it does, then we’ll simply repeat all of this again in the next one, and so on. So for those of us who watched e.g. Innuendo Studios’ The Alt Right Playbook, to now see those identical patterns of behaviors on display (by “tankies” or whoever), is more than a little disconcerting.

      And tbf, the likes of lemmy.ml is nothing at all on the scale of Lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net. So if you want to remain federated with some or all of those, then power to you and I am very glad that you can enjoy your time on the Fediverse.

      However, not all of us are in the same boat and some of us would rather only see the half of the conversation that we don’t have to mentally parse and decode what it means before we throw it away. Without having to block hundreds of individual trolls I mean. Ofc we are prevented from doing so since user level defederation does not exist, and the only instance I’ve ever even so much as heard of that blocks all of the big 3 is Lemmy.cafe. So rather than wait for Sublinks/PieFed/Mbin to improve, perhaps I should move there?

      Maybe this is all intellectual laziness? I dunno, I truly don’t, but also I don’t see the harm in allowing people to have their preferences met?

  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    5·
    26 days ago

    Yep. To a certain extent I don’t care what your political views are, but if you’re always trolling and putting them up in my face. And have no integrity rules wise, I’m blocking.

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    26 days ago

    yup, blocked that instance.

    it’s controlled by one or a very small group of people, and none of the rules are followed.

    • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
      3·
      24 days ago

      They definitely dance to their own tune. And also require that you do as well. Oh and they do not tell you what that is.