My thoughts is that it’s a simple situation really. If they’re harassing or assaulting people, the women will call the cops or something, simple situation and get the guy arrested. If he’s not doing anything, it’s nothing harmful. Apparently that’s not a solid enough answer. What should I have said?

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    Is there a magical barrier that keeps men who don’t say they’re trans from entering women’s bathrooms?

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      It’s quite interesting to see them make this argument while also claiming that gun control laws can’t possibly work because criminals won’t abide by them.

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        I guess we need to allow everyone to use any washroom because we need a good man in the women’s washroom to be around to save the women from a bad man in the women’s washroom

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        Gun control laws don’t stop bad actors from acting badly. And neither will restroom laws.

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      Yeah, this is probably the right way to go. There’s actually no bathroom police, for most people. It’s an issue in the first place because when someone is trans people will deputise themselves just to harass them.

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      The social contract, and the knowledge that it isn’t acceptable and any women inside would likely scream and the man would be perceived as an attempted rapist and would face consequences.

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        In my experience what happens is you look at each other confusedly for a moment, wondering who is in the wrong restroom. Then you realise there are no urinals so it’s probably the women’s restroom. Then the man leaves a bit embarrassed. Source: Happened to me at least twice (once the signs were really unclear).

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        So, no. I don’t think a rapist cares much if they’re perceived as a rapist. And a lot of (maybe most?) rapists know that they probably won’t be convicted even if caught.

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        The social contract

        and the knowledge that it isn’t acceptable

        Rapists, well known followers of social contract who only do things that are acceptable…

        It’s not concerning at all that this didn’t seem immensely silly and wrong when you typed it…

        and any women inside would likely scream

        Because if a bathroom allows trans women, women will then be unable to scream while facing an attempted rape?

        the man would be perceived as an attempted rapist and would face consequences.

        Are you advocating that any man who even accidentally enters a woman’s restroom startling a woman be declared an attempted rapists?

        Otherwise, they will be considered an attempted rapist whether trans and allowed in the bathroom or not…when they start doing the attempted rape…

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        So the woman won’t scream if a fake trans rapist starts raping them? The justice system won’t prosecute an accused fake trans rapist because there’s a newer social contract?