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minus-squareapfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down16·2 months agoNo need to be belligerent with commonly known facts. Still the 100+ year global hegemonic run of the US far exceeds the Eurasian hegemony of the Russian empire in terms of lives lost, economic impact, and ecological loss.
minus-squareeran_morad@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up14arrow-down3·2 months agoYou have no idea what you’re talking about. Stalin alone killed some 20 million people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down2·2 months agoUh holomodor calling, as example.
minus-squareapfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down5·edit-22 months agoThe Holomodor is truly an horrific genocide of the Ukrainian people caused by the Soviets. The US has perpetrated or backed the following genocides: The Native American genocide African and African American genocide in the US The Palestinian genocide The Bangladeshi genocide The Guatemalan genocide The Yemeni genocide Not even getting into the mass death caused by American sanctions.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down1·2 months agoAre we going back to the 1600-1800s? If so I think the list of Eurasian/Russian (in whatever form) fuckery and murder is quite long as well. Probably best not to take high ground on that
minus-squareapfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down3·2 months agoThere is no high ground here.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down3·2 months agoSo let’s not stand on the idea of one country “far exceeding” another, when that claim is anything but clear cut.
minus-squareapfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down2·edit-22 months agoOk. Lots of folks doing the exact same thing in retort, including you.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down4·edit-22 months agoNo, I saw high grounding, and called it out by example. You said 'far exceeds" and that’s a silly goose thing to say
minus-squareapfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down2·2 months agoThanks I still see “Nope, Russia is far worse.”
No need to be belligerent with commonly known facts. Still the 100+ year global hegemonic run of the US far exceeds the Eurasian hegemony of the Russian empire in terms of lives lost, economic impact, and ecological loss.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Stalin alone killed some 20 million people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin.
Uh holomodor calling, as example.
The Holomodor is truly an horrific genocide of the Ukrainian people caused by the Soviets.
The US has perpetrated or backed the following genocides:
Not even getting into the mass death caused by American sanctions.
Are we going back to the 1600-1800s? If so I think the list of Eurasian/Russian (in whatever form) fuckery and murder is quite long as well.
Probably best not to take high ground on that
There is no high ground here.
So let’s not stand on the idea of one country “far exceeding” another, when that claim is anything but clear cut.
Ok. Lots of folks doing the exact same thing in retort, including you.
No, I saw high grounding, and called it out by example.
You said 'far exceeds" and that’s a silly goose thing to say
Thanks I still see “Nope, Russia is far worse.”