• MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’m certain a large portion of the city would have to be demolished to build a high speed rail here.

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      3 months ago

      We do that for cars all the time. Wouldn’t it be a better solution to build something that ACTUALLY fixes traffic instead of adding another 2 lanes to the 15 lane highway? Induced demand is real

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        3 months ago

        I don’t know why everyone thinks I’m arguing against this lol I am absolutely for it it’s a great idea. All I’m saying is no one in any position of power in my city will ever allow it to happen

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      3 months ago

      Worst part is that was already done* to build the highways (and on traditionally black neighbourhoods to boot).

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        3 months ago

        Yeah, but there’s already a freeway here.

        For everyone downvoting me, I have nothing against high speed rail. I would love to have that as an option, but my city is literally never going to build one.

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          Well, one possible solution can be found in Brightline’s attempt to build a high speed rail between LA and Vegas. 96% of it is in the I-15 highway median. (Source: https://www.brightlinewest.com/overview/project)

          Yes, I know that won’t work everywhere and there isn’t always a highway median. I’m just pointing this out as one situation in which someone does have a (planned) solution to the problem of a highway already being there.

          Also, we expand highways on a regular basis in the United States, and that often means demolishing things next to them. Perhaps there are alternative uses for that space?

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          3 months ago

          Have you heard about this insane invention called

          tunnel?

          Sure, it’s more expensive but you can put miles of rail underground without much issue, besides cost. Safety will be slightly lower, but just from super safe to very safe.

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      3 months ago

      You might be overly focused on the incremental cost of solving a problem correctly without considering the elephant in the room of the millions we pour into our existing roadway systems.

      Instead of expanding the next roadway, how about reserving that space for more efficient public transportation solutions, such as rail? Even repurposing existing roadways could still be a better use of space and money. The funding for transportation solutions already exists and is being spent every day.

      Basically, with a great rail system, you shouldn’t need all those highway lanes that currently occupy so much space in the city, and the funding currently being used for those roadways ought to be repurposed for more efficient solutions.

      Just my two cents. I’m a regular guy and nobody cares what I think about automobiles and rail except random online people. I never would downvote you because it appears your comment is in good faith.

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        3 months ago

        These are all excellent suggestions! The problem is the area I live in is full of both people who would sooner die than give up their giant obnoxious pick-up trucks and politicians who get massive kick backs from the funds that are meant to be used to fix the roads here.

        Again, I have nothing against public rail transport, I just know that no one here will ever try to get it made, and if they did there would be all kinds of push back to make sure it never happens.