Recently Lemmy.World admins have heavily started pushing an MBFC bot in their bigger subs despite it being deeply unpopular with the users.
However rating propaganda was not enough for the mods as they are now actively fundraising for MBFC as well.
Evidence MBFC is ran by a Zionist:
The bias towards any pro-israel lobby website on MBFC is astoundingly obvious. Take for example UNWatch. UNwatch is still pushing the UNRWA is Hamas propaganda despite it being fully debunked by every country.
Surely a website like this spreading blatant propagands would have a poor MBFC. rating. Let’s check it out!
MBFC knows that UNWatch is an israeli lobby but just doesn’t think that’s very important for their credibility rating
For sites criticizing israel it works the other way around.
They do not have to fail any fact checks, just being designated as a ‘hate group’ by an israeli lobby is enough for MBFC to become a questionable source.
This is known to the lemmy.world admins and mods
Over the course of the last 9 months I have pointed out multiple times in public and private messages that MBFC is an incredibly bad source of ratings. Multiple other users have also made summaries for the .World mods and admins over the last week (and before that).
The admins have willingly ignored this criticism and now added a donation link to the MBFC bot knowing full well what MBFC stands for. Lemmy.World is directly endorsing the Zionist media lobby.
The bot is fucking abrasive as all get out. I couldn’t take it and blocked the fucking thing.
Good post.
Yep, just block it and move on.
the harm and propaganda it causes will still exist for users who are unaware.
Edit: I can recognize when I’ve jumped the gun. Apologies OP. I don’t fully agree but I also can’t say I have enough to say this is wrong either.
I’m not necessarily fully agreeing with OP’s thesis that MBFC is a pro-Zionist project, but something is very much amiss if UNWatch is considered to be a “highly credible” source.
I myself debunked a highly flawed and biased article from UNWatch that was posted to News@Lemmy.world* last month. The post was removed by the moderator (@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world) after being determined as disinformation. (I can’t link to it, since it has been removed, but if you want to see the details of my critique, check out this screenshot of my comment)
Having seen that first hand, I would absolutely say that MBFC’s credibility rating system is, at the very least, questionable.
- edit: World News
And, for future reference to others, if you flag such posts and also make a comment in the post for why that source is unreliable, it saves us a lot of time trying to figure out whether or not that is true (although the bot is a help despite it’s flaws).
Plus, even reliable sources can be wrong. It’s a lot easier for us to evaluate whether a post is misinformation if we’re told why the person reporting it believes it to be.
Edit: Also, although I don’t remember this, you must have posted it to World News because I’m not a News moderator.
Yup, sorry you’re right - it was World News, not News.
Not really a big deal, I just didn’t want people to think I’m a mod where I’m not.
Edit: Also, I did not code the bot and I really didn’t have much input in it. The only reason I’m not wholly against it is that there really aren’t any other options without each source being evaluated individually. I agree there is a Zionism issue, but I also think that isn’t really a factor if it is a story about, for example, the famine in Sudan. If someone has a better site for rating media bias, please pass it along and I will let the person behind the bot know.
I don’t take any issue with critiquing how MBFC does their ratings. But this post is a lot more than that
Yeah this post provides direct evidence that MBFC rates Zionist propaganda as credible and that’s very inconvenient for your narrative.
You also seem to be conflating “biased” with “lack of credibility.
You have not read my post at all because this is directly disproven with a mountain of evidence such as the falsed UNRWA = Hamas claims
. The MBFC rating rates sites which spout blatant propaganda as ‘factually credible’ despite them making outrageous claims.
Furthermore your comment in insanely anti-semitic and tries to conflate Judaism and Zionism in the first line so your agenda is obvious.
Anti-Semitic? Are you fucking joking?
If you’re not going to be serious then I’m not going to engage you further.
Do explain what you meant by <<them>>
Aite I’ll eat crow and admit I’ve jumped the gun. I’ve edited my original comment.
The entire point was i half expected you to drop that in the post. I’m surprised that wasn’t clear but there now it is. It’s an anti-Semitic, usually right wing dog whistle. That’s why I made the comment. It felt like you wanted to say it. It was admittedly tongue in cheek and in poor taste to throw that at you and for that I will apologize.
No problem.
The real problem is that for many years israel has tried to conflate Zionism and Judaism so there is an instinctive reaction for people to see criticism of israel as antisemitic.
However israeli media lobbies such as the ADL, UnWatch, NGO-Watch etc are very real. Just like how AIPAC is very real. They are not hiding they are Zionist lobby organisations either.
Just checked what the MBFC had to say about the ADL by the way and surprise surprise
Unfortunately I see “Zionist“ used by the right wing bigots all the time too so frankly when people use it it’s not always clear to me what they are driving at and what their real intentions are. I should’ve asked you or parsed what you wrote more carefully before going after you like that. That’s on me
Calling out Zionism is not antisemitism.
Stop trying to conflate the two.
It’s disgusting to see how many genocide apologists are on Lemmy. Keep fighting, @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world, and never submit
Every time I see the bot it has negative karma. Seems like people don’t like it. It’s biased for sure too.
…or is fact checking just getting in the way of your promotion of Cornel West and Jill Stein?
OP is awful, apparently, but I also don’t like that bot
Most of the adhoms here are literal pro-israel troll that were making claims about Hamas command centers under hospitals a few months ago.
Yeah it’s the same set of genocide deniers and zionists each time.
I think it’s far from perfect, and have made suggestions on improvements to the mods, but overall think it’s helpful.
There is definitely a cohort of weirdos that are enraged by it and aren’t content with simply blocking it and feel they are the saviors of all Lemmy-kind and are fixated on eradicating it for everyone.
OP:
5 images was too much to handle.
I hate this bot eh. Such blatant propaganda being pushed by it.
Does anyone have a suggested alternative for evaluating media sources? I generally don’t have too much of a problem with MBFC because I can dig in to see their rational for any given rating but I’d also be open to alternatives.
Aren’t they also using ground news to “watch the watchmen”?
I’m happy for the MBFC, and I saw overwhelmingly positive comments that it was being introduced to the communities.
I noticed it a few times but when it gave a questionable reliability to Rolling Stone magazine, i wondered about it. This makes more sense now. I’ve since blocked it but thanks for this write up.
Thanks for the heads-up. Going to donate.
