Bernie? AOC? Biden?

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    2 months ago

    Gov Shapiro, Gov Whitmire, Sen Kelly. The first two probably get their state off the contested map. I don’t know if Kelly can deliver AZ.

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      2 months ago

      As far as I’ve heard, nobody seems to hate Shapiro. Of course, they only vote red in rural PA, but in-betweeners would likely side with him.

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        Imagine being the kind of sun allergic bottomfeeder that still unironically uses the word “shitlib” post 2016, and especially post covid, and especially post Dobbs.

        You’re not discoursing, you’re just outing yourself as the exact kind of person who’ll get us all killed if anyone gets up the dumbass to listen to you.

        Signed, an actual fucking Palestinian American instead of some white kid like you that sees us as the latest convenient martyrs for their excuse to not due their minimum duty to protect the republic and everyone who’ll die first if it collapses.

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    2 months ago

    Stacey Abrams managed to flip Georgia, and has a similar background (legal) and views as Harris… They’d probably make an awesome team.

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    Given the timeline, I would go with someone safe like Buttigieg.

    You need someone with experience on the national stage lest there is a repeat of Palin. The only governor with that experience can’t run on a Harris ticket.

    The Senate is going to be very tight this election, which means you aren’t going to pick a swing state Senator like Kelly. A non-swing state senator isn’t going to be that valuable.

    No one in the House is good option. AOC isn’t going to bring a lot to the ticket and would probably be better working on either building her caucus in the House or waiting for Schumer to retire.

    Pete has gone through the primary process and been a prominent spokesperson for the administration. He isn’t exciting, but I don’t see him fucking up either.

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      The more I’ve thought about it the more I think Pete really is one of the safer candidates in that list. He’s already been vetted at the national level from the 2020 cycle. He’s wicked smart, is a great debater, and from the people who have seen him speak gets people excited. He has a national presence already and doesn’t require giving up a governorship or senate seat.

      He won the Iowa caucus in 2020 but because of their whole glitch thing it wasn’t official until days later. Should bring some good Midwest support too being from Indiana and presently living in Michigan.

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      You need someone with experience on the national stage lest there is a repeat of Palin.

      He’s one of the least experienced picks out there. Small town mayor to transportation secretary isn’t exactly a stacked resume. It’ll most likely be a governor.

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        I’m talking about experience being a candidate on the national stage.

        He’s run for President and even won some caucuses. He’s gone through the nomination process to become a Secretary. He routinely interacts with national media, both friendly and hostile.

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        2 months ago

        Obama’s resume was a lot thinner and he did okay. Although his first term was pretty bumpy.

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    2 months ago

    A current Democratic governor. I don’t want a senator to give up their seat. Ideally, they’d look for a southern Democrat governor, but I don’t think there are any.

    Maybe the NC governor, Roy Cooper? NC isn’t exactly southern but it’s south of the Mason-Dixon so it’ll placate older voters.

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      Why a southerner? You aren’t going to flip any Southern seats with them, they are solidly red, excluding Georgia, which you can win without that.

      My bigger concern would be the rust belt, a large block of swing states that a West Coast candidate may not resonate with. All of those states are both in play, and at risk. The south only has 1 state in play and much less risk.

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        FL has abortion and legal marijuana on the ballot. I’m not writing it off.

        Having a southern democrat was mandatory for a winning ticket up until Obama.

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    2 months ago

    I think Pennsylvania’s Governor Shapiro is a good choice, but Michigan’s Governor Whitmer is also an excellent idea. Both states are needed to win and have been looking choppy electorially (to say the least). I don’t think Sanders would take the call (for various reasons, none of which are bad). AOC is too “east-coast” when you’ve already got one of the more progressive Democrats on the ticket in Harris. Besides her time as a DA, Harris is fairly progressive. She was originally put on the 2020 Biden ticket as a nod to progressives within the party… so far as VP, she’s stayed to the left of Biden on most things.

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      I like Whitmer, but I think two women on the ticket would be a bridge too far for a lot of folks. It’s pretty much gotta be a white guy.

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    2 months ago

    Buttegieg seems like a real straight-shooter

    AOC would be amazing, that woman is going places and I’ll support her all the way

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      As you recently said, I “vigorously disagree”.

      Dude is literally a CIA/McKinsey operative. Do you also think that corrupt corporatists Neera Tanden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are also excellent?

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          He was a McKinsey operative that was sent to Afghanistan for reasons that just so happens to also be a high ranking member of the Air Force. It’s basically impossible that he WASN’T working with the CIA when he was sent to Afghanistan as a military-affiliated McKinsey representative.

          If you’re still confused or doubtful about this connection, you should know that CIA agents aren’t always getting into gun fights and car chases like in movies. They are also part of setting up puppet governments like Afghanistan and assassinating rulers who won’t play ball.

          Read Confessions of an Economic Hitman to find out what CIA does around the world in partnership with the world bank and a cadre of US corporations.

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              If you fail to see a problem with the US meddling with political violence, setting up puppet governments around the world, quashing populist movements, you have absolutely no moral compass much like CIA agent Pete Buttigieg.

              the CIA meddling around the world

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                I think you either have unrealistic expectations, a lack of understanding of history, a lack of understanding of how the US economy has worked for 80 years, or possibly all of the above.

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                  I think you are utterly programmed, insipid, and morally bankrupt.

                  The only way you wouldn’t have a problem with any of this is if you literally work as a government contractor, making weapons that liquify innocent children.

                  Have a great day tech bro. Karma is a real thing.

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    Cooper because he brings NC’s electoral votes and helps keep a Trumpy person out of the governor’s mansion. His political positions are bleh, but Harris is young and should something happen to her Cooper is a decent human and would make a decent president.

    Cooper also has experience dealing with gerrymandered bad-faith Republican supermajority, so I don’t think he’ll be interested in playing the compromise game.

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      On the downside, he’s relatively unknown on the national stage.

      On the upside, it’s a natural progression, he served as governor for a full term and the timing is right to move on to the next political field.

      To add to your points, he’s a democrat who won the same exact elections in a state that Trump also won both times, a state that simultaneously elected republican supermajorities and a republican lieutenant governor while still electing him. A straight white southern man who is about as nonthreatening to GOP sensibilities as you can get without actually being a republican.

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        I think most of your points are valid except the supermajority one. This state got the Supreme Court to say that our congressional districts were too gerrymandered (which is shocking in itself), and they just kept submitting even worse ones and then the Court decided to just stick to the old maps because they kicked the can too far down the road. Then one of the few democrats that got elected here turned out to be a snake and almost immediately flipped parties because the left was “too woke”. This state honestly should be blue based off the Triangle and Charlotte but Republicans have fucked it in such a way that they basically can’t lose power in any district so we’re “purple”

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          Yup, I have friends all over the state and just the occasional glance over the years at what Republicans have pulled in the state has been horrifying.

          A side note not related to gerrymandering - I’ve seen it thrown around that Cooper can’t do it because a quirk of NC law says the Lt. Governor becomes Acting Governor anytime the sitting Governor is out of state and the current Lt. Governor is Mark “Some People Need Killing” Robinson, but I honestly think giving him a longer leash to let more people hear him bark nonsense and hate will hurt Robinson’s chances of becoming governor. Sunshine is the best medicine and all of that (to the extent that it’s not free media advertising as it was with Trump). It’s kind of a headscratcher that Robinson was elected as Lt. Governor to begin with, the dude is a walking meme/idiot and the voters really dropped the ball on that one.

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            Yeah, I could see how that could be an impediment to a campaign, but practically speaking, if he is the governor: -Bill comes in, he vetoes, the veto gets overridden, the governor didn’t matter.

            So whether he nixes it or Robinson rubber stamps it, the practical end result is the same. The optics may not be as good, but he’s hit his term limit anyway and I think his supporters would rather see an NC politician on the national stage instead of him looking marginally better doing symbolic vetoes.

            I too marvel that Robinson won the same election that Cooper won. I can’t fathom the voting public that would make that split choice. The districted elections were mangled to explain the state congress and the US house, but the fact that the statewide went “Tillis, Robinson, Trump, and Cooper” I just will never understand.

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              I hear what you’re saying but we actively cannot trust Republicans in this state. They didn’t have the votes to override a veto for the budget in 2019 so it had been going back and forth for a bit. Then on 9/11 while a bunch of the Democrats were out at various 9/11 memorials the Republicans called a surprise session, had all their people there and ready, and jammed the vote through with a “supermajority”. So you have to be prepared for them because they’re scumbags

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          Same story for Nebraska. Most of the population lives in Omaha or Lincoln which both lean blue, but Republicans gerrymandered the fuck out of our districts so we’re a red state. And it matters a lot more here since we’re one of two states that split our electoral college votes by congressional district. Like recently Lincoln overwhelmingly voted for a Democrat for our district in a special election, but Republicans naturally redrew the fucking maps to include counties that are fucking north of Omaha (like 120 miles away). Look at this shit: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Nebraska’s+1st+Congressional+District,+NE/@41.2698636,-96.4887192,8z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x87915d2ef259455b:0x74cb97568fa3047a!8m2!3d41.5312936!4d-97.2652858!16zL20vMDl0eHky?gl=us