the plants are cross bred for generations. Each time the seeds of the plants with the best desired properties are kept.
the seeds can also be treated (see "feminizing marijuana seeds) with chemicals to produce certain traits.
the producers of these seeds (like monsanto, bayer, basf, …) have large R&D groups where the dna of the seeds can be further tracked and modified if required.
these producers have large green houses just for breeding the plants and collecting the desired seeds.
these seeds are patented. The plants produce fruits to specifications. To protect the intellectual property, patents and business, they are made not to produce further offspring, so the farmer needs to buy the seeds year after year.
another trait that’s being developped in the plants, for example, is making the plant immune to glyphosate, allowing the farmer to wastefully spray the herbicide on the field. It will kill all plants except for the desired crops.
source: used to work in for one of the above mentioned companies in the cropscience division.
Your response is mostly irrelevant. Monsanto (now Bayer) had a patent for plants that would produce sterile seeds (not seedless), but they never commercialized them. Farmers buy hybrid seeds because second generation hybrids are inferior.
There are many ways to produce seedless plants that don’t involve genetic engineering.
He also didn’t answer the question other than “something something genetic engineering”
Also, RoundUp resistance means crops can be planted closer together, increasing the yield from the same amount of land.
Your information is way off. Bayer bought the glysophate business from Monsanto. BASF bought the cropscience business from Bayer. The seeds are in production.
I mentioned genetic engineering on top of crossbreeding. Yes there are many ways to achieve a goal. But a business is going to opt for the one with the fastest results.
Your first paragraph was:
the plants are cross bred for generations. Each time the seeds of the plants with the best desired properties are kept.
You’re sharing information and opinions about Monsanto, but it isn’t relevant to the topic of seedless fruits.
I did nothing of the kind. You’re trying to provoke me by saying so.
I provided monsanto as an example next to other producers in the industry.
another trait that’s being developped in the plants, for example, is making the plant immune to glyphosate, allowing the farmer to wastefully spray the herbicide on the field. It will kill all plants except for the desired crops.
That’s largely inaccurate and mostly just your biased opinions.
If you were as much of an expert as you imply, you’d know that glyphosate doesn’t kill “all plants.” And it’s anything but wasteful.
Source: Also work in crop science and agronomy.
I never claimed or wanted imply to be an expert. I worked with brilliant minds who were. My account here is a recollection of what was explained to me by them. Not an opinion. I honestly don’t even have an idea if it’s biased since thiis was my only source of information.
It depends on the fruit in question, really.
Seedless Watermelon, for example, was developed by hybridizing diploid plants (has 2 chromosomes,) with tetraploid plants (they have 4 chromosomes,). Incidentally, this creates a triploid that happens to be sterile.
the way this is done is taking the pollen from a male diploid watermelon and pollinating female tetraploids. the fruit grows as you would expect and develop seeds that are themselves sterile (they can grow into plants, but don’t generate seeds.) (we still commonly grow seeded water melons because inorder to trigger fruit development, the seedless variety needs to be pollinated; it just doesn’t develop the mature seeds, and instead, has ‘seed casings’- the white things.)
many seedles variets of grapes can be propagated from cuttings; though they too were originally developed the same as watermelons.
Bananas are all clones; by the way. The only kinds of banana that are also edible are sterile. (this is actually potentially a huge problem.) Banana trees will send up new shoots every so often coming up along side the main stem/trunk, these stalks are what produce the fruit, but they can be cut off at the base (with some roots,) and then replanted.
Tree fruits are generally hybridized and grafted onto root stock. (apples commonly are grafted because it’s faster and you can use a more hardy rootstock with better varieties of apples. The roots are genetically one variety of tree, while everything else is another.) this would include otherwise sterile varieties.
Regarding bananas, if I got this right, all bananas and plantains of the same type are a clone, but different types were created by independently crossing Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana. Both species natively have seeds, but apparently their hybrids tend to be seedless.
My guess would be from cloned cuttings, but I don’t know for certain.
some plants like raspberry can propagate through roots. Others like strawberries have stolons. And theres plants like blackcurrant where branches can root when they hit the ground.
But mostly its done by humans through cuttings.
Seedless watermelons, at least, still have seeds. They’re just not as numerous, or as big (and often just white instead of black). Also, many plants can be cloned by planting a cutting from the stem.
From cuttings.
It’s not even new. We had it from centuries.
Genetic Modification
