• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Bullying would not explain that high of a number unless direct persecution is shown to have very high suicide rates.

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      I think in this context bullying can be expanded to its summative affect at the level of the society. This accumlative persecution is cultural and does in turn lesd to internal beliefs that one’s perceived deviance, as pushed by the dominant social narrative, is unworthy. There are studies that demonstrate societal pressures/persecution does lead to increased rates of suicide. This is most notable within marginalized groups supporting the point made above.

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        4 months ago

        I am open to actual data showing this from historically abused and marginalized group.

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          4 months ago

          If you have time for a podcast, ScienceVS has done two episodes on trans people with well researched citations. The more recent episode looks specifically at the issue of bullying and negative trans experience. Hope this helps. Cheers!

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            4 months ago

            I listened to that podcast, and it is just a one sided argument against a few studies, and just kind of hand waves away criticism or strawmans it.

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      Bullying makes it seem like its happening only in a school playground, and doesn’t even hint at the amount of discrimination they face.

      Trans ppl face high levels of sexual assault, hate crimes, exclusion from family, lack of support networks, economic hardship from not being able to get hired, medical discrimination, societal discrimination, and a whole lot more.