• UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Java is still significantly faster and more efficient than Python tho - because it has ahead-of-time optimizations and is not executing plain text.

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      Idk numpy go brrrrrrrrrr. I think it’s more just the right tool for the right job. Most languages have areas they excel at, and areas where they’re weaker, siloing yourself into one and thinking it’s faster for every implementation seems short sighted.

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        At it’s heart, numpy is C tho. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Python is amazing glue code. It makes this fast code more useful by wrapping it in simple® scripts and classes.

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      Faster, sure. Efficient, fuck no. With Java you have to run around and write ton of boiler plate code to do something simplest in nature.

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        Could say the same for C/C++.

        But yeah I’d like it if the features given by Lombok were standard in the language though it’s not a big deal these days since adding Lombok support is very trivial.

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          You shouldn’t use Lombok, as it uses non-public internal Java APIs, which is why it breaks every release. At one point we had a bug with Lombok that only resolved if you restarted the application. Switching off of Lombok resolved the issue.

          Just switch to kotlin. You can even just use Kotlin as a library if you really want (just for POJOs), but at this point Kotlin is just better than Java in almost every way.

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            I agree but I have tried like hell to get my team to use Kotlin but it’s hard to convince upper management. The team is reluctant to switch as well.

            Using Lombok is the next best thing.

            Though for POJOs that are immutable you can use record classes now.

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        I’m mainly taking efficiency in terms of energy consumption. I won’t deny that some ugly decisions have been made with Java :D

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          Energy use? That’s a pointless metric. If that is the goal then whole idea of desktop should be scraped. Waste of memory and hard drive space. Just imagine the amount of energy wasted on booting GUI.