• aew360@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        That’s not going to happen until is Hamas is destroyed. They fucked around knowing damn well how Israel would respond. Both have blood on their hands. All that Biden can do is urge them to not indiscriminately bomb areas with civilians. Hamas has been terrorizing Israel for decades. They’re not stopping until it’s over.

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          8 months ago

          Everyone including the US government knows that Hamas will survive this assault. It’s not about Hamas, it never was. Hamas simply provided Israel with the excuse to carry out an ethnic cleansing that they’ve been wanting to do for decades.

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            Everyone including the US government knows that Hamas will survive this assault.

            Especially since every Israeli act of genocide just radicalizes more Palestinians. Israel is literally making more Hamas even as they ostensibly try to destroy it.

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            8 months ago

            That’s not true. It was Arafat who refused peace terms in the late 90s. You’re looking at this like it’s black and white.

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              You mean after the Israeli PM that brokered the deal was assassinated a staunch opponent of the deal, Netanyahu, took power and refused to follow through with the part of the agreement where they pull their illegal settlements out of the West Bank that the Palestinians are the ones who refused peace there?

              You don’t get to wipe your ass with an agreement then whine when the other party abandons it. Much like their propping up of Hamas, Netanyahu’s coalition has shown time and time again that good faith negotiations is not what they’re interested in.

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                8 months ago

                Yeah I can agree with that. I hate Netanyahu. I don’t plan on defending him but Hamas raping and killing people would have exactly one type of reaction, and it’s the reaction they wanted. It wasn’t about protecting Gaza. They knew that their attack would destroy it. It was about Iran wanting to maximize chaos around the world. Not all Israeli people like Netanyahu. His approval ratings have never been lower. Of course, those that do approve of him would love to commit genocide upon the Palestinians, but those approval ratings are in single digits now.

                The invasion of Gaza will be temporary, and it’s anything more, Israel will be doing it alone with no external support.

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              8 months ago

              Why are you bringing out Arafat in the 90s? Your comment lacks relevance to what you’re replying to. Arafat has nothing to do with the fact that Israel wants Palestinians to leave Gaza.

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          8 months ago

          Yea I think Israel knew what would happen when they armed hamas

          And it’s evident the’re not going to stop until they’ve murdered all the civilians and their “settlers” (war criminals) have populated the region.

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          8 months ago

          Hamas today is as strong as ever, like every with some brain always knew.

          This is not Hamas, is about genocide Palestinians and stealig their land.

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        8 months ago

        While telling us he can’t provide them to Ukraine, who if Russia wins will be genocided as well.