• verstra@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    What i don’t understand is how fuel efficiency does not seem to be a concern of an average buyer? It is a large factor for me, and I’m proud to have highly efficient car for its class. Are those large trucks somehow more efficient than older, smaller models? Or are average buyers just not concerned with efficiency?

    Well not everyone has seen the light of factorio, so i might be over-fixating on efficiency.

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      Oh, they don’t care. Didn’t you know the price of gas is always the fault of the opposing parties last or current elected president??? That’s the AMERICAN way! Blame everybody else, and never accept the consequences for your own actions.

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      Yeah all the people bitching about gas prices are getting 8-12 mpg in these things, filling a 25 gallon tank once a week. A lot of these folks aren’t exactly rich either and the trucks are expensive. They’re paying a mortgage payment in monthly fuel, insurance, and loan expenses on these things.

      If they could keep their egos in check, they’d save a lot of money.

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        Or the fuckers rolling coal in lifted diesel pickup trucks. Like if you drive in that trash your opinion on gas prices is null

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        For people in modern countries - that’s about 28 litres per 100km that these selfish, thoughtless fuckers are going through. Cunts

        My wee car uses about 5.5 for reference

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          Kept reading about the fuel costs but never bothered to do the conversion. I understood they drank a lot so didn’t feel the need to know exactly how much…didn’t realize it was quite that high. Fucking hell… And I thought 10-15 was a lot for a car.

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        Part of the issue is that, despite people whining about how “high” fuel prices are, they are extremely low compared to most of the world, even during periods where it’s higher than usual. Although a sustained period of higher than usual fuel prices can get some to switch, like the period around the financial crisis.

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          Got myself blocked by a friend who was bitching about the high cost of gasoline and pointed out how cheap gas actually is in the US because its subsidized so much. Wait, the block came later when he was complaining about welfare queens or something. I mentioned that was an interesting take from a farmer since they are the biggest welfare queens in the country.

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          To put this into perspective, current petrol prices are hovering just below £1.50 per litre in the UK, that’s $8.64 / gallon

      • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.worldOP
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        My coworker complains about gas every other day. Like asshole, you drive your pickup truck three miles to work behind a fucking computer.

        It’s a 8 minute bike ride.

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        My 91 Cherokee has better mileage than a lot of modern cars, I think the last time I did some basic calculations it came out to about 25 MPG.

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      The diesel HD trucks can average nearly 20mpg, and the diesel half tons can get almost 30. The gas trucks will get 10-17mpg with good highway tires. Off road tires bring it down to 8-15.

      I’m completely in agreement that the people bitching about fuel prices are often the ones driving something like this. My truck is an HD gasser and I pay 4.50 a gallon right now. Sure it sucks, but I have a need for a truck. Other guys just drive them to an office job where a smaller fun car could easily get the job done. In a surprising twist though of just efficiency and aero dynamics my twin turbo V8 sports sedan will pull almost 28mpg on the freeway. Both are not hybrid.

      I have definitely said though that I wish there was a hybrid gas HD truck. It makes perfect sense. If I need to run a welder or other high power usage tool I would love to have that capability, while still being able to tow 17k pounds no problem and carry 6 people comfortably. They have already proven it works with the F150 power boost, and that gets almost 28mpg freeway.

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        Wait that’s still the mpg in the us ? That’s the same gallon we use in the uk ? (As I learnt the a us gallon can be different when talking about whisky or some thing along those lines…)

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          They are different standards, 100%! I hate that MPG in both English speaking countries means two different things. It’s like how Americas horsepower number is different than Britains. I feel bad for Canada too who’s caught between British units and American Units, and that’s before being dragged into the metric vs imperial. It’s unfortunate.

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            Eh, we Canadians officially use L/100km, which just make so much more sense to compare fuel efficiency. MPG can be so misleading.

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          5 months ago

          UK mpg are different than US mpg, it looks like 1 mpg US is ~1.2 mpg UK

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      5 months ago

      Full size trucks can get about 22 mpg highway. A 2011 Ford Ranger, the last year they were made, got 19 highway, with the v6…

      They have gotten more fuel efficent.

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        Light truck fuel efficiency has slowly been dragged up kicking and screaming by CAFE “fleetwide” rate by .25 to 1.3 MPG per year over the last decade or so. If memory serves we get 1.7 more MPG on light trucks in 2025.

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        Not sure if you’re aware but Ford has resumed production of the Ranger, it’s just now the same size as the Chevy Colorado: huge.

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      Fuel efficiency is a consideration but if you want a truck you really don’t have many options. You would think the mid size ones do ok but they really don’t, at least mine didn’t. I just got a full size diesel truck which can get around 30mpg on highway but usually the diesel engine costs more than the price difference of using a gas engine over like, a lot of years. (20mpg vs 30mpg but $5k more at purchase. Can buy a lot of gas for $5k).