• Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de
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    5 months ago

    The BS part is that they would have done anything helpful to the cause without the protest.

    This is just another excuse. “People think I support throwing starch at Stonehenge” is not a reason to vote conservative and eat red meat at every meal.

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      5 months ago

      We are trying to make people change the way they live and act, of course most of them will find any excuse to not do it. The “any attention is good” way of doing things is a far right tactic and shouldn’t be used. It gives them the perfect excuse to not align with the beliefs and just maintain their ways.

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        5 months ago

        That’s not the tactic here at all. The people who are outraged aren’t important. They will never participate meaningfully. Those people are and forever will be part of the problem. So it doesn’t matter if they’re angry now. This isn’t about them.

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          5 months ago

          Ok so what is the tactic here? They are vandalising a monument for what end if not attention? Talk me through the reasoning

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            5 months ago

            Gaining momentum within the movement, keep public attention high, pressure politicians to public statements, legitimise other forms of protests, encourage public debate, inspire involvement of people who generally support them, to name a few.

            On the other hand there isn’t a single form of protest that wouldn’t be either ignored or used as an excuse for inactivity by the people you claim to want to reach. Or could you name even a single example that would make them actually do something?

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              5 months ago

              keep public attention high

              There it is. You want attention no matter if it’s positive or not. Which type of support do you expect to gather by vandalising monuments? Encourage public debate by vandalising monuments?

              Normal protests, even if “angrier” would be better than this. Earn peoples’ trust and respect

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                5 months ago

                Public attention to the matter of climate change. Sorry that I didn’t spell it out for you.

                Care to answer my question though? Because if you have not a single idea what form of protest could actually sway the people you claim to want to reach, we can just as well continue with the cornstarch.

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                  5 months ago

                  Public attention to the matter of climate change. Sorry that I didn’t spell it out for you.

                  Yes I got that but my point still stands

                  Care to answer my question though? Because if you have not a single idea what form of protest could actually sway the people you claim to want to reach, we can just as well continue with the cornstarch

                  You should read my last paragraph slower then.

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      5 months ago

      Right?

      “I would have helped avoiding the apocalypse! But then some random guys sprayed paint on some things!”