• blargerer@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    Show me the methodology because that’s basically saying 100% of adult male deaths are Hamas soldiers. Smells like bullshit to me. I’d bet the number is closer to 1k than 10k.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah I’m pretty sure this is Israel’s methodology for calculating Hamas deaths, 100% of adult men are soldiers. It’s obviously a lie but I do believe that’s where the number comes from.

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      10 months ago

      You think Israel dropped 25,000 bombs, invaded, and has been waging urban combat for 4 months, but has only killed 1,000 Hamas militants? That’s just silly.

      Also Hamas uses child soldiers extensively (including as suicide bombers) so you can drop the “adult” part.

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            10 months ago

            And the totality of Gaza including children is Hamas to you. Say what you need to. I’m not the one defending murdering children, people under a white flag, woman, aid givers, medics, hospital workers and more.

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            10 months ago

            Reminds me of people immediately shouting “GENOCIDE!!!” when the first bombs were dropped on Houthi pirates. It really has lost all meaning and I think that’s deliberate. Actual genocides will be much more difficult for people to accept after this ridiculous propaganda campaign, which is something China and Russia in particular, who are pushing narratives like these through their troll armies, are benefiting from.

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              10 months ago

              Reminds me of people immediately shouting “GENOCIDE!!!” when the first bombs were dropped on Houthi pirates

              You apparently misunderstood the order of events. The Yemen genocide has been going on for almost a decade and is what likely radicalized some to commit acts of piracy and terrorism.

              Not excusing it of course, terrorism is always inexcusable no matter what, just providing context for those like you who thought they just popped up out of nowhere for no reason.

              It really has lost all meaning

              That’s what racists say about the word racism.

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                10 months ago

                No, I’ve literally seen people say that specifically the American and British bombings of the Houthis were genocide. These same people were completely unaware of the ongoing civil war in Yemen.

                That’s what racists say about the word racism.

                I get what you mean, but it is a real problem. If you are shouting wolf too many times, at some point, nobody is going to believe you.

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                  10 months ago

                  If you are shouting wolf too many times, at some point, nobody is going to believe you.

                  Conversely, it’s not a great idea to keep saying lamb when it’s actually a wolf. Like you are doing with the Gaza genocide.