Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don’t come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don’t really get upset by it IRL

  • Bonehead@kbin.social
    35·
    7 months ago

    Congratulations, you’re finally getting it. They are two different people. There are people that eat vegan because they have no choice. Those people are not privileged. There are people that call themselves vegan and make sure everyone knows they are vegan. Those are the vegans the original comment was talking about, which someone took offense to. That’s why I pointed out the difference.

    It took a little effort, but at least you got there.

      • Bonehead@kbin.social
        32·
        7 months ago

        What if I can’t afford those things, still eat rice and beans, but I tell people I’m vegan to avoid awkward social interactions?

        But would you? Would you really turn down free food simply because you’re vegan? Would you really tell people you’re vegan to avoid an “awkward social interaction” when offered free food? If so, that makes you privileged. Being able to pick and choose food makes you privileged, whether it’s vegan or not. That’s the difference.

          • Bonehead@kbin.social
            33·
            7 months ago

            Wow…so you’ve been so poor that you can only afford rice and beans, and you’ve been offered free food that you turned down because it wasn’t vegan? Really? See, that’s the kind of smugness OP was talking about. You put your veganism above securing food, and you’re proud of it. You willingly sacrificed your self-preservation for your principles. And now you’re advertising it.

              • Bonehead@kbin.social
                23·
                7 months ago

                You literally asked me the question and are now chastising me for my answer.

                Yes, because you claim to be poor yet still call being vegan a lifestyle choice. And you chastise others in your position for not making that choice. Poor people don’t get to make those choices. Poor people do whatever it takes to survive. Poor people live on that desert island every single day and have to make difficult decisions. Poor take whatever they can get and are greatful for it. Poor people don’t have the privilege to turn down food.

                Maybe begin to recognize your own privilege before telling other people what to do.

                • Luden [comrade/them]@lemmy.ml
                  33·
                  7 months ago

                  I think you are a deeply unserious person who idolizes poverty by saying vegans making the choice are bad and people forced into are good. I also think, based on this conversation, that you hold no strong convictions that can’t be shaken out of you with a little bit of hardship and can’t contextualize any amount of self-sacrifice because of your obsession with veganism being a privileged position. I already told you that people who have no other option are not a target of criticism, but people like you who who use others as a scapegoat certainly are. I’m blocking you now though because this is going nowhere.

                  • Bonehead@kbin.social
                    22·
                    7 months ago

                    I pointed out self-preservation to point out that vegans don’t go around attacking poor people and don’t expect people to keep their principles in those situations. I made a choice I don’t expect other people to make.

                    Then literally the very next sentence, you contradict yourself.

                    I point my criticisms at the people I know in real life who shop at the exact same stores I do and make similar amounts of money, but still use poor people as an excuse not to change their own behavior.

                    You claim to be poor, claim to not attack people who are poor, then chastise people who are poor for not making the same choices that you do. You are a hypocrite. Have a nice day.