Obviously I have only seen discussion on what I’ve seen, but I respectfully disagree. This is a very pro realistic minimum wage, a very pro reduce diff between highest and lowest site in my experience.
Eh. Just recently I’ve seen a lot of people talk down upon like… manual laborers, tradespeople, etc.
Without being too cynical, I think this website has a lot of people who like to ‘roleplay’ as being leftist, but then when you get into any specific policy points everyone suddenly goes “well I think people should be paid more… but obviously laborers shouldn’t make as much money as people like… oh, I don’t know… middle manager data analysts” and then you look at their history and they’re like “as a middle manager data analyst…”.
Its a very “communism is when I make more money and maybe some other people can make more too as long as it’s not as much as me” approach to progressivism
The parable of the blind men and an elephant is a story of a group of blind men who have never come across an elephant before and who learn and imagine what the elephant is like by touching it. Each blind man feels a different part of the animal’s body, but only one part, such as the side or the tusk. They then describe the animal based on their limited experience and their descriptions of the elephant are different from each other. In some versions, they come to suspect that the other person is dishonest and they come to blows. The moral of the parable is that humans have a tendency to claim absolute truth based on their limited, subjective experience as they ignore other people’s limited, subjective experiences which may be equally true.
No need to fight, I think both experiences are fine. I would just maintain that what might “appear” to be people invested in progressive, workers rights type issues, perhaps might not actually commit to those actions if it meant any meaningful sacrifice or change to themselves.
To break the parable a bit, imagine a lion that can somehow contort itself to feel like a housecat. A lot of people can touch it and say “hmm… feels like a nice little cat” - but someone who has had his arm chomped on by the lion knows there’s more beneath the surface
To the best of my recollection (and observation skills), I simply have not seen any of that kind of dog whistling, in a way, the ‘progressivism for me, not for thee’ / anti-laborer slant.
Hey if you’d ask the people on this site, higher positions always entitle themselves to higher wages.
We really gotta have some kind of actual initiative to restructure wages around actual work lol
Huh? This is the most flat org / workers rights / collectivist board I’ve ever seen
Well… it is as long as you assume that every person on the planet is a programmer.
When you’re not a programmer in middle management…? Things get a lot…. Murkier…
Obviously I have only seen discussion on what I’ve seen, but I respectfully disagree. This is a very pro realistic minimum wage, a very pro reduce diff between highest and lowest site in my experience.
Again, my own anecdotal observation
Eh. Just recently I’ve seen a lot of people talk down upon like… manual laborers, tradespeople, etc.
Without being too cynical, I think this website has a lot of people who like to ‘roleplay’ as being leftist, but then when you get into any specific policy points everyone suddenly goes “well I think people should be paid more… but obviously laborers shouldn’t make as much money as people like… oh, I don’t know… middle manager data analysts” and then you look at their history and they’re like “as a middle manager data analyst…”.
Its a very “communism is when I make more money and maybe some other people can make more too as long as it’s not as much as me” approach to progressivism
Wow, I’ve had GBU’s experience!
Let’s fight about it 🥊
No need to fight, I think both experiences are fine. I would just maintain that what might “appear” to be people invested in progressive, workers rights type issues, perhaps might not actually commit to those actions if it meant any meaningful sacrifice or change to themselves.
To break the parable a bit, imagine a lion that can somehow contort itself to feel like a housecat. A lot of people can touch it and say “hmm… feels like a nice little cat” - but someone who has had his arm chomped on by the lion knows there’s more beneath the surface
Tee-hee, ya 🐱🦁,
To the best of my recollection (and observation skills), I simply have not seen any of that kind of dog whistling, in a way, the ‘progressivism for me, not for thee’ / anti-laborer slant.