Currently, the Lemmy Project only uses Github for its repositories related to Lemmy’s development (e.g. Lemmy, Lemmy-UI). GitHub is a proprietary service, and it is owned by Microsoft. These facts open the door for a myriad of potential issues across the ecosystem, and community. I would like to clarify, though, that I don’t think that it would be a wise decision, currently, to remove Github as the primary location for development, but I would think that it would be a good move to mirror Lemmy’s repositories to a FOSS service (e.g. Codeberg). I personally would advocate for the use of Codeberg, as it is entirely open source, and non-profit, and they are currently working on implementing federation (through ActivityPub) – all these things, I think, align well with Lemmy’s role in the wider community, and its more general philosophy. In the future, I would ideally hope for a permanent move to such a service, but, in the meantime, I think it would, at the very least, be a wise, if not only benevolent, move.

I decided to post this here, as I felt that it didn’t seem appropriate to post it as an issue in any of the Lemmy repos.

  • BlanK0@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Honestly I didn’t even knew that codeberg existed. A Open Source gitub would be pretty pog ngl

      • Timwi@kbin.social
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        10 months ago

        It means “good”, “agreeable” or “desirable”. It’s modern slang so I don’t blame you.

        Just for completeness, “ngl” stands for “not gonna lie” and means something akin to “in my opinion” or “to be honest”.

      • 4am@lemm.eeEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Short for “PogChamp”, which is a Twitch chat emote featuring an expression of surprise like “😯”. Is used to be a picture of streamer GooTecks until I think he made some comments supporting Jan 6th and twitch changed it (in the worst way possible, but that’s another story)

        So saying something is “pog” means you are excited/hyped for it. Other uses include “Poggers” or “Poggies”. Over time it’s worked its way into the larger Internet slang lexicon as Twitch has grown.

    • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
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      10 months ago

      It’s actually already mirrored to Codeberg

      My mistake! I swear that I did check before I posted this! I must’ve improperly searched for it, or somehting, because I really don’t remember seeing it when I looked.

      it seems the devs haven’t pushed the changes for a couple of months.

      Indeed, that seems to be the case. I wonder why?

      EDIT (2024-01-19T00:45):

      I think that I found what I did “wrong”, initially: I searched for “Lemmy” under “Repositories” on Codeberg (which didn’t display the Lemmy repos), where I should’ve searched under “Organizations”. Personally, I feel that this is a bit of a UX issue on Codebergs end; the main search should be a fuzzy search with options to fliter afterwards.

  • exscape@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    I’m all for open source services, but realistically, what potential issues are there with using GitHub?
    Every contributor has a copy of the Git repo, so isn’t the worst case basically losing access to issues and similar data? And even that is very unlikely.

    • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      11 months ago

      I can’t give you an exhaustive list, but I’m, for example, not a fan of:

      • Needing an account at Microsoft for reporting issues, contributing code or searching code in repositories. Microsoft operates in the ad/tracking business and is known for violating laws.
      • Microsoft will potentially link this account data with LinkedIn or other Microsoft services in the future.
      • Microsoft violates the licenses of code hosted on GitHub to train their AIs.
      • Microsoft is known for creating lock-in effects and EEE, generally putting humanity worse off for their own profit. I’d rather not contribute to that, neither with code nor socially.
      • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        And just in general, Microsoft will enshitify GitHub one day. Its inevitable for every free service run by a public for-profit corporation. You can count on this as much as you can count on climate change.

        So why wait until it starts happening? Get started with the move now.

        • andrew@radiation.partyEnglish
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          10 months ago

          They make a lot off of paid repositories and enterprise contracts, id be shocked if they had to enshittify it