• betheydocrime@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    If all you’re going to do is repeat ideologies while ignoring material conditions, then that’s your call, but I’m done spending my time with you if that’s your choice.

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      9 months ago

      I didn’t ignore the material conditions you stated, I actually reaffirmed them.

      You however did ignore my point about the rest of the world who manages without tipping.

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      9 months ago

      Bro is an idiot without an ounce of empathy who has clearly never had to work a service job a day in their lives. I’m with you ms docrime

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        9 months ago

        I’m against tipping specifically because of having worked in food service jobs. I’m sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative. And neither of you have meaningfully responded to why the rest of the world manages fine without tipping, which really says it all.

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          9 months ago

          If you’re going out to eat and not tipping, I truly don’t believe you have worked at a food service job. Full stop.

          Tipping is a construct of capitalism that allows owners to shunt the burden of paying their workers to the customer. Yes, it’s fucked. This does not change the fact that if a server waits on your bum ass for an hour, and you don’t tip, they probably made about $3 while serving you. It’s basic human respect to compensate someone for that - and while it’s fucked that the burden falls on you, that’s the name of the game in America.

          Don’t go out to eat if you don’t want to tip.

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            9 months ago

            While serving, I highly disliked the wildly inconsistent pay I received due to the tipping system. It makes paying rent on time hard. It’s honestly a really shitty way to live, which if you worked as server you would also know. Yeah getting $100 tip randomly is a cool surprise, no disagreements there … But it can’t be relied upon.

            Also, still no comment on how the rest of the civilized world does just fine without tipping?

            And lastly, no thank you. I’m going to continue to go out and not tip. Not only that, I’m going to continue to encourage others to do the same.

            It’s working. Growing numbers if both servers and customers are becoming more and more sick of this bullshit and the tide is shifting.

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              9 months ago

              Bro you’re straight up just lying. It’s so clear that you have no idea what being a server is like, because believe it or not, you do actually make pretty decent money (a hell of a lot more than working the check stand at a grocery store). This is part of the discussion that is actually worth having, because similar to nurses who don’t want universal health care, there are a lot of people in the service industry who like the tipping system.

              Sure, here’s how “the rest of the civilized world works”: people pay their fucking employees. America is broken.

              Your limp dick protest does nothing except hurt employees. The owners still make the exact same amount from you, and the lower class gets fucked.

              Since you seem to have reading comprehension issues, let me make this clear:

              • I do not support tipping
              • Not tipping is taking it out on the person who’s vulnerable
              • Therefore, if I don’t feel like tipping, I do not go out

              It’s not working, the wage divide is getting larger, and you’re a heartless idiot who very likely is eating a lot of spit. Because, as you should know since you “worked service”, people talk and know if a customer is going to stiff them.