I really hope that Luigi does get acquitted. I mean if it is factual that he didn’t do it and the real killer is out there… well then, I guess Luigi still got lots of fame, but at the same time we will also be happy that the real guy is not only free, but the mystery of who he is will make him cooler.
Don’t chew your food with your mouth open, holy shit Michael where are your manners
yeah he’s known for being terrible at table manners
It’s bothered me literally every time I’ve seen this.
When your teeth are too perfect to hide.
Don’t get me wrong. After all of this high drama, it would be extremely funny if Luigi Mangione can prove he was in Rochester on the day of the shooting.
I think that’s exactly where it’s going. Get convicted, real killer confesses and the state can’t pursue a crime they’ve convicted someone for.
There’s a part of me hoping dudes going along with it to aid in the others escape, solidarity style, and he’s got some iron clad alibi his lawyer plans to deliver in the courtroom that means they can’t convict him.
As if they would care. There will be no justice here.
Luigi is player 2.
Plot twist: this was a group act all along. The murderer flees the scene. Once the image gets released, a second actor shows up at a McDonald’s, a public space. Gets reported to authorities by a third actor, who does actually work at McD’s. They waste the authorities’ time, and the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence. The actual murderer, in the meantime, disappears for real, benefiting of the time wasted by the authorities. Second actor represents something, and gets some cool pics getting “arrested”
Idk, the idea just came to mind seeing the comment above
the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence.
Here’s the flaw in your plan: This doesn’t actually work in the US.
if luigi hypothetically did participate in this plan, wouldn’t that itself be a crime (accessory to murder)? so they could still get him for something if they found out about the plan, but probably for less than if he did actually kill someone. i’m not a lawyer though so i don’t really know how this stuff works or if it would even be feasible to prosecute him for any of those things (if he did them)
Yeah I think they could still charge anyone who was in on the plan with conspiracy to commit murder whether they pulled the trigger or not.
Edit: at minimum
They’d have to prove there was a plan.
Oh absolutely!
How easy would that be to prove though?
Also McD actor gets a small reward that takes care of some expenses for the group
The feds, and state of New York, already said that the informant wasn’t going to get a dime of the posted reward.
The only class solidarity that we have seen systemically is for the owners.
I knew this was how it would go down. I’m guessing they’re saying since they didn’t go through crimestoppers they can’t get it?
I love it. Snitch gets their pretend cash snatched. Makes it less likely for people to snitch. And that fucker is going to be mad about it every day for the rest of their life.
I want this timeline so damn bad
In which timeline are you? Harambe alive or Harambe dead?
I never put my dick away for Harambe. Does not matter what HR has to say about it.
HR stands from Harambe Repressors.
As long as you keep the cheese scarf in check, HR is typically ok with it.
Next time they pick a patsy for a guy with distinctive eyebrows they should find a guy with the same eyebrows.
If the brows don’t quit, you must acquit!
It really is an absolutely bizaare story. Why would he walk around with the murder weapon like that?
It looks like you couldn’t decide on “bizarre” or “bazaar” so you split the difference. Bazaar is a market place, bizarre is weird. Just fyi, not trying to be a dick about it happy holidays love you
Well that added fuck all to conversation.
I learned what a bazaar was in Mournhold. It’s the only place I’ve seen that word outside this conversation.
Here are some other examples:
A book, The Cathedral and the Bazaar about software development.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
A fashion and “lifestyle” magazine
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/
We have a lot of foreign food stores around here that are called “The Bazaar Supermarket” etc.
See, I think one of three scenarios might have happened:
- Luigi didn’t do it. He was framed and set up because out of the hundreds of prank tips, this guy looked “close enough.”
- Luigi did it, but the evidence was made up to make the case solid and the police look competent. Luigi wasn’t stupid, but he’s boned anyway.
- Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.
As a writer, one of the aggravating tropes we have to follow is, “make the story believable,” when reality sometimes doesn’t align with “a good story.” Some criminals are really that stupid, and some armchair theory, based on decades of movies, books, and TV shows, you expect “hey, this is what they SHOULD have done is.” And they didn’t. It’s like when a chessmaster has to watch complete amateurs play chess. “Obvious strategies” are ignored, and basically both players are just not thinking past their last move.
Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.
Given that he was valedictorian at his school, I find that unlikely to be the option.
I think you’re missing a 4th option:
- He did it, and believed it not worth the anxiety/suffering of living the rest of his life as a wanted man, so did what he could to get away from the immediate scene but ultimately turn himself in so to speak.
And there are almost certainly more nuanced options out there.
The thing is, whoever did it was pretty smart about much of the crime, which is why the story of how Luigi was caught and what they say he had on is person seems so odd relative to the behavior the previous week.
If it was Luigi, he was pretty disciplined and smart before, during and immediately after the crime with the only leak being showing his face at the hostel (which he may have been required to do when he gave them ID).
If he did do it and really had all that evidence on him, maybe he wanted to get caught? It seems crazy that anyone would hang onto a 3d printed gun when it would be pretty easy to destroy and dispose of it in multiple pieces and locations.
I’ve said it before but I truly believe that Luigi would still be free if he had plucked his eyebrows, regardless of whether he did it.
To be precise, we have no idea what evidence was collected or what it shows. All we know is what the cops said they found, and cops are notorious liars. Just ask Young Thug or Karen Read.
We can assume some of what the cops say is true, but the challenge is that we have no idea which parts.
It seems quite plausible that when they found the backpack it also had the gun and “manifesto” (stupid to call it that but it pushes their agenda) and whatever else in it, but they kept quiet about it. They only revealed that they had found the backpack. That would allow them to arrest anyone and then claim that he had the gun, etc. on him when they found him. They’ll need to prove that those things weren’t in the backpack they found.
They’ll need to prove that those things weren’t in the backpack they found.
I really doubt it. Cops barely have to prove shit when they’re arresting someone for weed. In something this high profile and important for the establishment I doubt there will be much proof at all.
A slight variation on your second scenario is parallel construction.
I don’t know if Luigi’s the shooter or not, but if he did it, there’s a decent chance whatever is presented as evidence has absolutely nothing to do with how they actually caught the guy.Fourth option, he’s taking the fall for a love interest.
I don’t trust the police so I don’t assume the items they claim that they got off of Luigi are legit. We’ll see what his lawyer says in court. We also don’t know if the gun that they say he had was the murder weapon. Have they done ballistics analysis or anything yet?
I think he wanted to be caught and make a statement. “Those parasites had it coming”
Probably a majority of ppl on social media who don’t like wealth inequality, have said that in some form.
That platform could be used by anyone though, so long as they look suspicious enough.
He was apparently in possession of the backpack they earlier recovered so…
The one with the monopoly money? How do they know that it was his backpack? I heard them talking about the backpack and monopoly money non stop but I have heard nothing about how they are so sure that it’s related to the case. NYC is huge and there’s a lot of people who lose backpacks all the time and there’s a lot of folks who would want to troll and stir up shit.
He wanted to get caught.
The real assassin is in Russia.
Maybe the real Russian OPS were in the GOP with IQ45-47 all along.
Imagine what happens if someone with a charming smile and strong eyebrow game shoots another health care CEO.
inshallah
God willing
Whoever killed Brian Thompson really did announce a safari on these parasites
It wouldn’t even have to be someone who looks like Luigi. They got the screen shots of Luigi from the hostel and found him based on the pictures, but they haven’t presented evidence that he was at the crime scene. If you look at the shooting video you can tell that the jacket worn by the killer is not the same jacket Luigi was recorded wearing at the hostel. Same with the fake ID. It only proves that was him at the hostel. They’ll need to present evidence that he was at the crime scene. They say they found a water bottle nearby that can be linked to him, we’ll see.
This is actually the beginning of the plot to Sonic Adventure 2. We should be seeing Luigi snowboarding down the streets of San Francisco any day now.
Oh great, now I have to ask my 9 year old sonic fan to put this into context. Kid beat the game on computer despite the crazy control setup.
Sonic gets framed for Shadow’s crime and escapes authorities snowboarding down an inclined street
This is the exact scenario I dreamed of one time. Was like GTA except all downhill in snowy city streets.
Am I missing something or is this still just people being stupid about photos?
It’s not really the photos. For me, it’s that it’s really unusual for him to have had all the evidence on hand. Like the ID, gun, silencer, notes, and a motive on hand, just chilling in McDonalds. He also gave away probable cause to search him by presenting the ID which he should have known was fake. Considering he took concealing steps like using a ghost gun, ditching his backpack, and making a relatively clean getaway, it’s pretty odd.
Still it’s obviously possible that he wanted to be caught or was exhausted… or just dumb enough to not think of that.
It IS a big thing that the evidence hasn’t been presented officially yet. There’s a lot of media talk implying that he’s the guy but trial by media is not a verdict
I think that the gun and everything else were dumped and found and the cops are saying he had them on him when he didn’t. I think they know it’s him, but they didn’t use legal means to identify him (parallel construction). They might have used some kind of new way of tracking people that they don’t want to reveal to the public.
Oh yeah, definitely. I mean they definitely ran more than face detection software.
They probably got thousands of tips and chose to respond to the one randomly in Altoona based on other knowledge they had.
It’s crazy to me that parallel construction is allowed.
I suppose you could use targeted social media algorithms to target people within a certain area who are service workers who are more likely to see him. So they could theoretically manipulate people into better recognizing him.
Succinct analysis plus the desire of the state to pin this to anyone really to please the parasite class.
Honestly just any manifesto that starts off by praising the feds is laughable.
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The thing that gets me is the “ghost gun” they found on him doesn’t look like a 3D printed gun according to the pictures that were released. It looks like a typical factory manufactured pistol with a metal slide and a metal barrel. Both machined. He would have spent a lot of needless time adding this much detail to the gun, like the grips on the machined metal slide. Why put so much effort into something like that?
Everything on that gun looks highly machined. This isn’t what you would expect from a home brewed 3D printed gun.
Now it could be they just took a random gun and photoed it to make the media happy and didn’t want to show the actual gun. But it’s odd.
“3d printed guns” aren’t all homebrew. Usually with guns you can just buy literally every part except for a certain part that’s serialized and legally considered to be “the gun” (ship of Theseus style; any other part can be replaced and it’s the same gun, but if that one’s different it’s a different gun)
It’s pretty trivial to print only that part and buy the rest. Also completely legal in many states, here’s a website with a bunch of examples:
This is new to me. Got a link to the photos of the supposed murder weapon?
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