• Lennny@lemmy.world
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    Dafuq gravy did you have with vegetables? It’s a heavily peppered bechamel, starting from a sausage fat roux… and to spite the French a bit more we use black pepper.

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      Vegetarian? We did use black pepper in ours but not that much. I usually like quite spicy food whereas the other person I was cooking for does not, so it’s possible I didn’t put as much pepper in as most people would. It’s also possible that I just didn’t notice the pepper as much because I usually like eating chillies with my food.

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          Haha ikr. It can be very challenging to cook a meal that we both enjoy, sometimes. I still have a very vivid memory of having a friend cook for me when I was around 18 or so and they made an arrabiata or something similar, a slightly spicy pasta sauce. It amazed me how tasty food could be because my mum is really not a good cook (an excellent baker though :) )

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          You can get a fair bit of heat from fresh black pepper, piperine activates the same receptor as capsaicin. I can tolerate a lot more spice than most, but it’s definitely spicy. Or it kind of bridges “spiced” and “spicy”.

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        If you’re going for vegetarian that’s fine and dandy but I think a preponderance of the flavor comes from the sausage fat. I don’t think you can make a fair comparison from what you’ve described. The gravy is definitely not bland.

        Also that’s what biscuits are here. They are heaven.

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          Ah, that would explain it. Maybe next time I’ll see if there’s a way to replicate that sausage fat flavour because that does sound good

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        I’m confused about how casually you’re conflating piperine and capsaicin.

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            I’m British and have met two people like this in my life, one of which is American. Given the working class stereotype of ordering the “hottest thing on the menu” at an Indian restaurant, there’s some serious doublethink going on here.