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    3 days ago

    An insult would make me no longer respect you. Why would I base work off of someone I don’t respect?

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        I would assume that anyone reacting in such a manner is immature and insecure in their own work. Insults are often not worth listening or reacting to, constructive criticism is. However if you respond to proper criticism by attacking the critic then you’re an ass.

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          How do you define a proper criticism? I’ve seen proper criticism taken as an insult. But perhaps you’re right its more likely to warrant a response with a strong criticizm in order to get a response, than to just flat out attack.

          Or maybe its conditional?

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            Yeah it can be hard to differentiate between criticism and insults online. Often insults will be emotionally driven or have surface level analysis while proper criticism will have deeper insight into the topic and be delivered calmly.

            I’ve seen proper criticism taken as an insult.

            I would assume immaturity or insecurity.

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              Well everybody has good and bad days. A disproportionate emotional response, especially one that gets apologized for later, is pretty easy to sympathize with. In many ways I like working with people who don’t pretend to be perfect. But when people like really dig their heels in, and start burning mental and emotional energy due to somebody else criticizing their work or positions, its like a reality warping tunnel created by people who are mad at each other.

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    Insults are an attack and a lack of respect by default, they cannot be considered flattery under any circumstances.

    The opposite case is criticism, which, even if it is harsh, can be made with greatest possible respect. Besides, to make a critique, first you have to analyze the work properly, that in itself shows commitment, and THAT’S flattering.

    It is not good to assume, but maybe you confused both terms.

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      So when people are celebrating their haters, they are insulted? No they are flattered that somebody else spent the energy being angry. If I can stir shit up and make you mad, as long as you won’t hurt me I’ll love the attention

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        God what a naive and toxic attitude. This peak toxic troll thinking that has absolutely no place in any useful discourse. With all sincerity, you should really seek help. I really do pity you. This isn’t flattery. I’m not angry. I’m not celebrating you. I don’t care to hurt you. You’re just a sad fool and I hope you find a way to be better.

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          Wait why are you getting so upset? In what way have I engaged in toxic discourse, or I am a troll? I had a “shower thought” and thought it was funny and decided to share it. How have I been toxic, by like vaguely defending a view that I hadn’t thought about but for more than the time it took to post this and respond to you.

          I’m not being toxic or performatively indignant. I’m not sure what you think my intent is, but I assure you it isn’t as negative as you are making it out to be.

          You come across like someone who wants to pick a fight, do you care to explain that behavior?

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    The most flattering thing someone can do is deem your work worthy of adding to, like building on a good foundation. What you’re describing is detracting from someone else’s efforts to divert their attention from creativity to bickering with you. If they manage to create something good out of it that’s a credit to them and nothing but shame for you. I disagree with your take completely.

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      It isn’t even a take. I’m not like teaching a seminar on it ffs

      Have you ever watched a YouTube video that was a response to someone else’s YouTube video? That’s all I was thinking about, this entire economy of foul discourse. Is this a super serious shower thoughts comm?