• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Too bad private email access is essentially dead. Any service not requiring another email or phone number to sign up gets quickly shut down. A casualty in the war on whistleblowers.

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      2 days ago

      You can sign up for Proton mail without providing email or phone number, as far as I recall.

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          4 hours ago

          I did that recently while using Tails, and it let me register without either an email or phone number. This is misinformation.

        • red@lemmy.zip
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          1 day ago

          you still can, it was a bug in past that they fixed long ago

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            it’s not a bug and it’s still not possible, it’s for tracking who created the account of course.

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              4 hours ago

              It is possible, I just signed up for one recently while using Tails. I was not required to use either email or phone number. Stop spreading misinformation.

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                  4 hours ago

                  They said any service gets shut down. I registered a ProtonMail account without email or phone number. Proton also does not cooperate with anyone but Swiss authorities. It is obviously still possible.

                  You can also register without one on cock.li, if you don’t mind them being edgy middle-aged teenagers.

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                    4 hours ago

                    All services do eventually shut down, possibly moreso for higher privacy services, you might just disagree on when.

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            1 day ago

            Try it now. Load up a tor tab in the Brave browser, and try signing up for an email without providing any info.

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              1 day ago

              yes I just did, not brave but tor browser and I was able to create account

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                I just loaded up a Linux vm with Brave, and tried to sign up in a tor window. It requires a verification email to sign up.

                Maybe you’re using a browser or OS that it’s tracking.

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                  4 hours ago

                  It does not, this is misinformation. Do not believe this person, I recently did it on Tails while using Tor and did not need email or phone number.

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                  1 day ago

                  yeah I’m using tor browser, also don’t forget you can get fingerprinted even on tor

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      2 days ago

      email is never private, if its that sensitive it just shouldn’t go on the internet

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        2 days ago

        Exactly; email is digital post cards and always has been.

        Of course, that means I can encrypt a message and use someone else’s email account to send it :)

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        2 days ago

        Yes, tho it days it dosent store it, ill leave it up to you what you do whit that.

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          They do store it and have provided it to authorities in the past. In their defense, modern laws require you to hand over any data you have or get shut down. But they already knew that, yet choose to ask for it anyways knowing that they have to give it away if asked to.

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            4 hours ago

            They provided it to Swiss authorities, with a notice that it happened to their customers. They do not have any requirement to share it with other governments.

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            2 days ago

            As far as I understand it, this is only recovery emails and I think it explicitly has some sort of warning about this when setting it. This is different than the email prompt on sign up.

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              I wouldn’t trust them not to store the initial one as well tbh. Nothing technically stops that and it’s in their interests.

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                They don’t ask for one on signup. I just signed up recently while using Tor on Tails, and was not required to provide an email for any reason. The only thing that happens is you get a warning in the account panel saying you won’t be able to recover your account if you lose the recovery codes.

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              I didn’t even know it asked for an email for sign up. I just remember the recovery email.