• HollowNaught@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    5 months ago

    If you want a good front end alternative to youtube, try freetube on pcs and newpipe on android

  • tarsisurdi@lemmy.eco.br
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    5 months ago

    Big tech can cheat the system by paying their taxes on countries in which they are lower, but when you try to do the same:

    • xektop@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      5 months ago

      I pay for YouTube because it does give more revenue than watching an ad to the creators. I pay 6$ and watch hundreds of hours monthly. If it was more than that I will consider alternatives and AdBlock (what I was doing before started my sub). To each their own :)

        • magic_lobster_party@kbin.run
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          20
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          I don’t want to set up Patreon for every creator I’m watching. Often I just watch one or two videos from them and that’s it.

        • xektop@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Some do, others don’t and as someone else said i am not going to make Patreon and do monthly sub to each of them. As I said I watch hundreds of hours per month and it’s not from 4-5 creators. For me it’s worth - I pay for the infrastructure and some support for the people I watch. If it’s free for you it means someone else is paying.

      • manualoverride@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        5 months ago

        It’s the equivalent of $16.50 a month where I live and that is not an insignificant proportion of my monthly income. The adverts are constantly repeating and often for products and services that are actual scams. I firmly believe as soon as enough people pay… we’ll have to pay more or they will show us a smaller number of “specially selected” ads.

        • Mango@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 months ago

          The more you pay, the more advertisers recognize you as a lucrative crowd and wanna get in your face.

    • Fades@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      do you think the signature you include in your posts have a tangible effect?

      • algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        5 months ago

        I think it’s hilariously naïve. The comments will be scraped anyway, and there’s nothing you can do about it

      • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        It was enough to convince a few others to do the same, however pointless it is. They’ve been told before, but don’t care either way and will keep doing it.

    • Auli@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      If the France sports dns blocking has proved anything it’s that most people just don’t bother. And if it doesn’t work just accept it instead of just changing a DNS setting in a computer.

    • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      23
      ·
      5 months ago

      $20 month for family music streaming plus the insane amount of good content is a bargain. Y’all just want to be salty they are forcing you to stop freeloading 🤣.

      • lemmyvore@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        YouTube was built on illegal content and still has a buttload of illegal content and Google knows it but won’t do anything about it. Let’s not call the kettle black.

        If they really want to be serious about it fine, turn it into paid-only access. It will neatly solve the whole ad debacle and they won’t have to play cat and mouse with VPNs and blocking and all these shenanigans.

        Ask yourself why they don’t do that. It’s because 90% of the content on there is illegal and when they host it for free they have an excuse. But if they turn the whole thing private and ask for money to access it they become liable for all of it.

        • Auli@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          90% is definitely not illegal. Have numbers to prove it?

          • lemmyvore@feddit.nl
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            5 months ago

            Lol. Yeah it’s all fresh or properly sourced material.

            Go search for any music video. You should be finding exactly one (1) official entry. In some cases there are legit live recordings + montage that should also be only one of.

            Instead there are dozens or hundreds, and most of them are not transformative enough to qualify for fair use. Google knows which ones are there illegaly because they are clearly able to identify and demonetize them.

            But why not straight out delete them, or tell the uploader to delete them or else? Because they want to have lots of content regardless if it’s legit, and they want to show ads, just as long as it goes to the right people.

            They can put ads on questionable content that’s free to watch as long as they’re ready to remove it if and when asked, but they can’t sell a product based on questionable content. It comes too close to what piracy websites are doing.

            • catloaf@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              If the content owner doesn’t care enough to take them down, why should Google? They’re not liable. Everyone benefits.

              • lemmyvore@feddit.nl
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                5 months ago

                I’m just explaining why Google can’t put YouTube behind a paywall. It’s fine as long as it’s an open platform. If it becomes a paid product it raises the bar.

      • Mango@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        When Google stops deciding which content creators matter and which don’t, I’ll pay. When I can have my subscriptions feed un-fucked with by their political agenda, I’ll pay. When my home feed doesn’t send me the same goddamn rich kids videos as suggestions for months on end like there’s some chance I just overlooked them and they’re slightly related to my interests, I’ll pay. YouTube is complete garbage. Some of those content creators can have my money. YouTube cannot.

      • stardust@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        I’m not affected since I use freetube and newpipe. This affects people who were actually paying and watching YouTube logged in but not people like me.

  • Sorgan71@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    5 months ago

    thats literally fraud. Consider yourself lucky they’re not some other online marketplaces.