This is an article written by telegram’s founder and CEO Pavel Durov in 2019 on “Why whatsapp will never be secure”. Your thoughts?

  • Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    Sure, fuck WhatsApp, but Telegram isn’t even end-to-end encrypted most of the time. Their group chats never are, and their “secret chat” encryption for non-group chats must be explicitly enabled and hardly ever is because it disables some features. And when it is encrypted, it’s with some dubious nonstandard cryptography.

    It’s also pseudo open source; they do publish source code once in a while but it never corresponds to the binaries that nearly everyone actually uses.

    And the audacity to talk about metadata when Telegram accounts still require a phone number today (as they did five years ago when this post was written) is just… 🤯

    State-sponsored exploits against WhatsApp might be more common than against Telegram, or at least we hear about them more, but it’s not because the app is more vulnerable: it’s because governments don’t need to compromise the endpoint to read your Telegram messages: they can just add a new device to your account with an SMS and see everything.

    (╯° °)╯︵ ┻━┻

    Anything claiming to prioritize privacy yet asking for your phone number (Telegram, WhatsApp, Signal, …) is a farce.

    • Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      Bravo, bravo, bravo!!

      Dude, see you on the same side of the barricades when the time comes to fight the centralized army of agent Smiths 👏👏👏

  • beta_tester@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    This is a very good reminder why one should worry about the new messaging standard for interoperability.

    WhatsApp users resilient enough not to fall for constant popups telling them to back up their chats can still be traced by a number of other tricks – from accessing their contacts’ backups to invisible encryption key changes [13]. The metadata generated by WhatsApp users – logs describing who chats with whom and when – is leaked to all kinds of agencies in large volumes by WhatsApp’s parent company [14].

    It even might result in me thinking that we should have to ban facebook from entering the fediverse because people are lazy and don’t switch to the real fediverse if they can see your posts and contact you directly.

  • labbbb@thelemmy.club
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    10 months ago

    Durov is a suspicious RuSSian who very likely works for FSB. Do not use Telegram at all costs!

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        10 months ago

        Where is racism there? I’m Russian myself and I know what I’m saying.

        Ok, use Telegram, then don’t cry when they leak your data

        • Clot@lemm.eeOP
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          10 months ago

          Yeah you clearly are a russian and you clearly know what you are saying by those intentional caps.