Hello,
I was interested in building a high end printer, mostly for the fun of it and learning what goes into it. I’ve been looking at the Voron and on the page looks really nice; however, I’ve been unable to find a lot of actual print quality, speed, and capability comparisons.
Does anybody here have experience or recommendations of other high end, self build, printer designs?
I’d be using my customized printer based on the ender 3 max platform.
Really, looking to improve in a few areas:
- proper enclosure and venting so I don’t continue to poison myself when printing abs.
- elimination of ringing caused by that heavy bed swinging around at high speed
- ability to ramp up the print speed past 50mm/s
I’d also love the ability to play with multi-matrtial printing, but not high on the list.
Thanks all
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I’ve got 4 Vorons, a 2.4r2, trident, switchwire, and a 0.2. The 2.4 and trident are amazing printers. I’d recommend the trident as your first Voron. Any issues you run into, the Voron community is very helpful and will guide you. As far as kit vendors, the LDO kits are significantly better than the cheap ones like formbot. Don’t go with the cheaper option if you can afford the LDO kit. It will make the build a lot easier and more enjoyable. The wiring is the worst part of the build, and LDO gives you all the wiring pre crimped, and they have a lot of extra PCBs that make the wiring even easier.
A 2.4 will be better than an Ender 3, but there are better options out there. The flying gantry is a solution in search of a problem, the gantry is heavy and not particularly rigid, Voron toolheads don’t cool particularly well, the rigid bed mounting is a recipe for bed taco, etc.
Which isn’t to say that V2s are bad printers – they can turn out great prints. But if you’re starting fresh today, I’d seriously consider any number of printers over it.
If you want to stay within the Voron ecosystem for whatever reason, the Trident’s a better design. It still lacks things like kinematic bed mounting that are standard fair on other designs today, though. I’d stay away from Tap on any of them – I’m still baffled that thing gets promoted as being a good idea.
In terms of bang for your buck, it’s incredibly difficult to beat the VzBot kits. It’ll be a less expensive and more capable machine than a V2.4. There are panels available to enclose it. I don’t love the Z stage on it, but I can overlook it given the value the rest of the printer gets you.
The Annex K3 is an absolutely killer little machine, but is only 180x180 build volume. The small build volume is free rigidity, though, and K3s can be made true high temp capable with less relative effort than a lot of printers. I’m not as big a fan of the larger Annex printers (K1/K2), personally.
The Rat Rig v-Core was probably the best value CoreXY before the VzBot kits came around. Enclosing them is more of a challenge due to all the PETG parts, though. The EVA toolhead provides a ton of flexibility for mixing and matching parts, if that’s your thing.
In terms of take it out of the box and print, nothing beats the Bambu X1 and P1P. They’re great units. They’re a closed ecosystem though, and not modification friendly if that’s what you want.
My main workhorse printer’s a Railcore II. Great machine, but the design’s aging and I generally wouldn’t recommend a new build today outside of a few very specific applications. It was cutting edge when the design was released in 2018, but, as with the 2.4, the wider community has learned a lot since then about fundamental printer design and there are better options now.
The Voron community is a bit like a cult. Do everything by their book and you will have a good printer and many friends. But do not start to ask too many whys or modify your machine in an unapproved way.
I reccomend to keep your printer, install klipper and keep on tinkering.
So, I bought myself a rpi4 and installed Klipper. Very cool firmware quite enjoying it. Still tuning but i’ve got my speed up 3x from my Marlin based firmware. I think I’ll continue looking at the options here recommended and build one – mostly because I want to – not because I am solving a problem. Thanks for putting me onto Klipper.